User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2012-08-09
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Jump to navigationJump to search--- Log opened Thu Aug 09 00:00:04 2012 00:00 -!- Tgeairn [~tgeairn@50-73-123-186-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [] 00:03 -!- Frostee [~frostyisa@115-64-72-36.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:03 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:03 -!- Dcoetzee|2 is now known as Dcoetzee 00:04 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:04 -!- maid [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 00:06 -!- linxon634 [~linxon634@85.26.164.100] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:09 -!- Neutralhomer [~chatzilla@c-24-127-38-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:10 -!- Apheori [~dirien@wikimedia/Isarra] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:10 < Neutralhomer> Any admins available? Got a problem editor I need taken care of ASAP. 00:10 < Mdann52> What have they done? 00:11 < Neutralhomer> Trolling for starters... 00:12 -!- lexein [~chatzilla@wikipedia/lexein] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 00:12 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|zZzZ 00:16 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:18 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:19 -!- evilthomas is now known as thomas 00:26 -!- Dereckso1 is now known as Dereckson 00:31 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Quit: Reality intrudes] 00:35 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:36 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37 -!- Neutralhomer [~chatzilla@c-24-127-38-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 00:45 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has left #wikipedia-en [] 00:45 -!- schiste [~schiste@ovh-esp.x-prime.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:45 -!- schiste [~schiste@ovh-esp.x-prime.com] has quit [Changing host] 00:45 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:45 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:47 -!- Odisha1 [~wikiodish@wikimedia/odisha1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:52 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:53 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Quit: Changing client] 00:54 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@wikipedia/Juxo] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:58 -!- AndrewN|Sleep [~Andrew@wikimedia/AndrewN] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:00 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@wikimedia/AndrewN] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:01 -!- Magog_the_Ogre [~Magog_the@wikipedia/Magog-the-Ogre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:05 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:06 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:09 -!- mig22 [~mig@111.65.28.19] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:09 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:10 -!- Sid-G [~Siddharth@wikipedia/Siddhartha-Ghai] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:13 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:15 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:19 -!- mig22 [~mig@111.65.28.19] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 01:21 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:23 -!- Sp33dyphil [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Sp33dyphil] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:25 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 01:29 -!- Neutralhomer [~chatzilla@c-24-127-38-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:29 -!- Neutralhomer [~chatzilla@c-24-127-38-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:30 -!- Sid-G [~Siddharth@wikipedia/Siddhartha-Ghai] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:32 -!- konk is now known as custardcow 01:35 -!- Frostee is now known as Frostee|away 01:35 -!- hygg [~uju@c-67-189-28-129.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:40 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:41 -!- thomas is now known as jerk 01:41 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 01:42 -!- mys_721tx [~mys_721tx@wikipedia/mys-721tx] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:43 -!- jerk is now known as thomas 01:53 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:02 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:03 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:06 -!- Sp33dyphil [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Sp33dyphil] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 02:07 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:08 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Quit: Bedtime. 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04:07 -!- Hole1n0ne [~Hole1n0ne@121.54.54.62] has left #wikipedia-en [] 04:07 < Seddon> ummm 04:08 < Seddon> yes 04:08 < Seddon> but 04:08 < Seddon> now your not 04:08 -!- Anna_Frodesiak [Anna_Frode@wikipedia/Anna-Frodesiak] has left #wikipedia-en [] 04:09 < jubo2> Cheezy meatpie! 04:10 * jubo2 is having tech troubles - software not getting configured properly 04:10 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:10 < jubo2> Why oh Why cannot we have a CTO for 0€, as we have no CTO it's me who has to h4x the confuguring servers and services 04:12 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:15 -!- Frostee [~frostyisa@115-64-72-36.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #wikipedia-en [] 04:16 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:21 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:21 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:25 < Qcoder02> jubo2: Are you radical? 04:26 * BlastHardcheese hax jubo2 04:27 < jubo2> I'm doing a bad job at getting Nagios configured properly 04:28 -!- Fasttimes68 [~Fasttimes@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:28 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:28 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@wikimedia/AndrewN] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:28 < jubo2> Qcoder02: radical comes from gr,"radix icix" ( en."by the roots" IIAMNM ) 04:29 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:29 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:33 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:33 -!- Mrmatiko [~Mrmatiko@wikipedia/Mrmatiko] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:38 -!- mig22 [~mig@111.65.29.29] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:41 < BlastHardcheese> excellent, dude 04:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [2012-08-09, 13:28:08] <jubo2> Qcoder02: radical comes from gr,"radix icix" ( en."by the roots" IIAMNM ) 04:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> [2012-08-09, 13:28:33] * Tony_Sidaway (~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway) has joined #wikipedia-en 04:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> does that mean tony is so radical that he avoided that remark? 04:48 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~tony@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:52 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@37.117.18.94] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:52 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@37.117.18.94] has quit [Changing host] 04:52 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:54 -!- ExtinguishedFire [~chatzilla@i161223.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:00 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:02 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:05 -!- mig22 [~mig@111.65.29.29] has left #wikipedia-en [] 05:08 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09 -!- schiste [~schiste@72-32-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:09 -!- schiste [~schiste@72-32-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Changing host] 05:09 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:14 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:16 -!- Tony_Sidaway_ [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The sidaway has arrived 05:24 -!- lineinthesand [~tom@chello084115146121.1.graz.surfer.at] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway your connection absolutely sucks today 05:26 < lineinthesand> In a wikipedia article: is an svg image preferred over a png image? 05:26 < foks> Yes. 05:27 < lineinthesand> OK. 05:27 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:27 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> lineinthesand depends 05:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> is the svg verison better? 05:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if it is identical svg is better sure 05:30 < lineinthesand> I exported a png from inkscape 05:30 < lineinthesand> Then the idea occurred to me that I could upload an svg too. 05:31 < lineinthesand> Unfortunately only after I had uploaded the png already. 05:31 < Tony_Sidaway_> Eh oh. I'm using the Swedish shell account and (I'd forgotten about) this ancient Android connection from last night. 05:32 < foks> lineinthesand, we can have both, it's just SVGs on pages reduce the load time 05:32 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:33 < foks> I think that's the reason for then. 05:33 < Tony_Sidaway_> I was trying to install a sasl module for irssi in the cjb account but it's being a bugger. 05:34 < Tony_Sidaway_> Actually svgs also scale better. For logos and whatnot they're much better than raster images. 05:35 -!- RD [~Ryan@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:35 -!- Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte 05:36 -!- Fasttimes68 [~Fasttimes@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:36 < Tony_Sidaway_> Raster graphics was regarded as very inferior back when I was a young programmer. All the best stuff was expensive and rather slow CRT vector graphics. 05:37 < Tony_Sidaway_> We even had colour plotters! 05:37 -!- ipatrol [~ipatrol@wikimedia/Ipatrol] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:37 < mareklug> calcomp 05:37 < Tony_Sidaway_> Yep 05:38 < ipatrol> Peter-C? 05:38 < foks> Tony_Sidaway_, [[Vectrex]]? 05:38 < foks> :) 05:41 -!- outofband2 [outofband2@bzq-218-150-20.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:43 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 05:48 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:52 < Tony_Sidaway_> foks: yes, many of the best early coin operated console machines, including Asteroids and Battle Zone, had vector displays. 05:52 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host86-170-175-104.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:52 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host86-170-175-104.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 05:52 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:53 * foks nods. 05:53 < foks> Unfortunately, I wasn't alive in the 80s. 05:54 < Tony_Sidaway_> I blame your parents. 05:54 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54 < foks> So do I, the swines. 05:54 < foks> :P 05:55 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:55 < Tony_Sidaway_> Fire up the DeLorean. You know what to do. 05:59 < wctaiwan> dang it, why doesn't adobe sell an edu version of fireworks :( 05:59 < wctaiwan> I don't want all of them other fancy software. 05:59 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:00 -!- Aetitiae [~Aetitiae@unaffiliated/aetitiae] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:01 -!- ExtinguishedFire [~chatzilla@i161223.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [SeaMonkey 2.11/20120715041107]] 06:03 -!- TheCavalry [~Chase@188-223-85-48.zone14.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 06:03 -!- TheCavalry [~Chase@wikipedia/Chase-me-ladies-Im-the-Cavalry] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:04 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:04 < foks> wctaiwan, I'll happy take it off your hands ;) 06:04 < wctaiwan> don't think that'd be legal :p 06:04 < wctaiwan> and anyway I haven't bought it yet 06:04 < wctaiwan> currently trying to see if something on the app store would do the trick 06:05 -!- Tony_Sidaway_ [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Quit: Reality intrudes] 06:07 < closedmouth> which one is fireworks? vector graphics? 06:07 < wctaiwan> web graphics. 06:08 < wctaiwan> illustrator is the vector editor for print design and stuff. 06:08 < closedmouth> oh 06:08 < closedmouth> seems very specific 06:08 < wctaiwan> on the contrary, it's more versatile. 06:08 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08 < wctaiwan> It does both bitmap and vector, though you could argue that it does neither particularly well 06:09 < mareklug> you know, creating demand 06:09 < The_Thing> I now listen to this song on repeat while I'm driving, full blast, with my windows down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIIpExVf-5I 06:09 < The_Thing> And I laugh at the odd looks people give me :p 06:10 < mareklug> there is nothing particularly ill-suited about photoshop and illustrator as sole tools for web graphics 06:10 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:11 < foks> Listening to music full blast with your windows down does not make you cool 06:12 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:14 < closedmouth> yeah it does 06:15 < wctaiwan> if by cool you mean incredibly obnoxious... 06:15 -!- Guest55148 [~androirc@240.sub-174-252-69.myvzw.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:15 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:15 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:15 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:15 -!- PeterSymonds [~Peter@wikimedia/PeterSymonds] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:17 -!- Guest55148 is now known as Guerillero|phone 06:17 < Pharos> which is the usual definition i think 06:22 < Seddon> i see an ipatrol 06:22 < lineinthesand> Btw. I suspect smoking weed (especially if done every day) to be detrimental to intelligence. 06:23 < Seddon> It is 06:23 < Seddon> I know from experience 06:23 < lineinthesand> I just know from this German guy named Hans Söllner. 06:24 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip72-193-246-5.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:25 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@CPE0013f7ab79b4-CM0013f7ab79b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:25 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@CPE0013f7ab79b4-CM0013f7ab79b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Changing host] 06:25 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:25 < lineinthesand> He released records over the years and the lyrics (which were quite funny in the beginning) became more stupid with every release... 06:26 -!- Guerillero|phone [~androirc@240.sub-174-252-69.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 06:27 -!- ipatrol [~ipatrol@wikimedia/Ipatrol] has quit [Quit: TCP FIN] 06:28 < foks> Sounds like Eminem. 06:28 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:28 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:29 < lineinthesand> Oh well, got to go. Thanks for the advice concerning svgs! 06:30 -!- lineinthesand [~tom@chello084115146121.1.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:31 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:33 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:34 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-124-178-142-4.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:34 -!- russavia [~russavia@CPE-124-178-142-4.lns3.pie.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 06:34 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:35 < foks> Does anyone here use vector? 06:35 < mareklug> i do 06:35 < foks> mareklug, how does one watchlist a page? 06:35 < foks> Is it that star icon thingy? 06:36 < mareklug> yes, c-alt-w 06:36 < foks> I'm not looking for the keyboard shortcut here 06:36 < foks> :P 06:36 < foks> so yeah, the star 06:36 < mareklug> but yes 06:37 -!- WilliamH_UK [~WilliamH_@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:37 < mareklug> you know, if you mouseover it, it tells you :) 06:37 -!- MX80 [~MX80@cust176.253.117.74.dsl.g3telecom.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:38 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:39 < foks> mareklug, I don't use vector 06:39 < foks> I wasn't planning on switching to vector to see 06:39 < foks> :D 06:39 < wctaiwan> lol monobook >.> 06:40 < foks> Monobook 4 lyf 06:40 < foks> at least until Athena 06:40 -!- Froodsleep is now known as Frood 06:43 < mareklug> i just saw something weird: an indirect free kick from within penalty box 06:45 < foks> That can happen... I forget what for though. 06:46 < wctaiwan> activist students are scary 06:46 < wctaiwan> :x 06:46 < foks> mareklug, oh, it's when the goalkeeper holds the ball for more than six seconds. 06:46 < foks> Or for passbacks 06:46 < foks> Like, not enough for a penalty 06:47 < mareklug> it wasn't that. but i think the defender had the ball between her knees for a while 06:47 < foks> Oh, okay. deliberate obstruction then 06:47 < foks> Yeah, probably that 06:47 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:47 < foks> Is this in the USA-Japan game? 06:47 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 06:48 < foks> Or the Canada game? 06:48 < foks> (I think they're playing France, I can't remember) 06:48 < mareklug> fra-can. can is so lucky. woodwork x3 06:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if japan is involved there will be tentacles or takoyaki 06:49 < mareklug> and can scores. 90th minute, too 06:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> fra can punch you if you win 06:50 < mareklug> can was unlucky to lose to usa, so it's fair they win bronze 06:51 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:51 < foks> Very good! 06:51 -!- RichyRich [~chatzilla@81-178-159-108.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug USA was canned 06:51 < mareklug> canned? 06:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or did USA can? 06:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you say Can was unlucky 06:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *said 06:52 < foks> Tin Can. 06:52 < mareklug> isa canned can, rather 06:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what you say 06:52 -!- UTECJosh [~bob@173-9-118-209-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:52 < foks> Can you shush? 06:52 < foks> oh so many cans 06:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks that would be to die for 06:52 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:53 -!- UTECJosh [~bob@173-9-118-209-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 06:54 -!- lukas23 is now known as lukas||||||away 06:56 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:57 -!- Avruch [~Me@p3ahost177.fahc.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:57 -!- Avruch [~Me@p3ahost177.fahc.org] has quit [Changing host] 06:57 -!- Avruch [~Me@wikimedia/Nathan] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:57 -!- The_Thing [~ODORBLOCK@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:59 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:02 < mareklug> usa has a grudge match for gold coming up against japan 07:02 < mareklug> http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/08/09/ioc-strip-tyler-hamilton-gold/m8H7lWD1fGaHnMg3jF7sKP/story.html <-- here is a -1 gold for usa of yore. gotta adjust the wiki article. 07:09 -!- Dusti [43c105ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.193.5.186] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug OMG 07:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> doping! 07:10 < Dusti> I need a crat 07:10 < Dusti> anyone around by chance? 07:10 -!- Rastrojo [~mongo_es@unaffiliated/rastrojo] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have a cat 07:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not a crat 07:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p 07:13 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@cpc1-cdif6-0-0-cust25.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 07:13 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@Wikimedia/Seddon] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:13 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:14 < foks> WilliamH_UK, are you a crat? 07:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> he isnt MWUK :p 07:17 < Dusti> Is anyone from ArbCom around? 07:17 < Tony_Sidaway> Could someone confirm or deny my belief that the host nation of the Olympics gets let off some of the earlier rounds of competitions and thus tends to have an advantage? 07:17 < Tony_Sidaway> I don't know where I got this idea. My son says it's bollocks. 07:18 < Frood> omg it's Dusti 07:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway your son is quite british then 07:18 < Dusti> :) Hey Frood 07:18 < Tony_Sidaway> I find the UK performance in the Olympics otherwise inexplicable. We're a very small nation so statistically we can't possibly compete as well as say USA and China. 07:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway the host team has the advantage to practice at the vennue site 07:19 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, we are allowed to enter more athletes into events. 07:19 < foks> We don't need to qualify for them, like other nations do 07:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> also transportation of athletes is easier 07:19 < Tony_Sidaway> foks: thanks. 07:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks so UK can wear out the competition? 07:20 < foks> well, no 07:20 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: good point. They're not far from home and surrounded by foreigners (oh wait, that's the common condition of nearly all Londoners). 07:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I mean the british have paradropped their queen 07:20 < foks> the host nation still has to finish in a medal position, so it's not like we're being given the medals 07:20 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so I dont think anything is beyond UK's reach 07:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> queen looked manly 07:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> probably due to the parachute 07:22 -!- Jetro [~Bruker@118.225.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:22 < Tony_Sidaway> Well look at France. They've got about twice the population and London for them is a short train journey, but they're not doing at all well. 07:22 < foks> fucking stupid commentators 07:23 < foks> "Let's hope this routine lives up to the words of "hakuna matata" - no problems" 07:23 < foks> it means NO WORRIES 07:23 < foks> for the rest of your daaays 07:23 < Tony_Sidaway> I thought it was a made-up phrase from The Lion King. 07:23 < foks> It's swahili 07:24 < foks> it's a real idiom 07:24 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:24 < foks> "It is not usually used in conversation." aww. 07:24 < foks> Also, it does mean "no problems". I apologise to that commentator. 07:24 < foks> Literally "there aren't problems" 07:25 < Tony_Sidaway> I thought I'd hate the Olympics, but actually it was okay. I just noticed they're nearly over. 07:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway they also have gotten downgraded 07:25 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host86-170-175-104.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:25 -!- shimgray [~andrew@host86-170-175-104.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 07:25 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:26 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, I think it's only the Londoners who hate the Olympics. 07:26 < Tony_Sidaway> It was like the Royal Wedding. Unless you actually made an effort to tune your television set into the relevant programmes you didn't even notice any change. 07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> train tickets may be unaffordable 07:26 < foks> Given they've got to commute through it. 07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks if they work for the olympics I can see how that may be a problem 07:26 < Frood> I've never seen The Lion King. 07:26 * foks smites Frood 07:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Frood you havent seen much 07:27 < Tony_Sidaway> I'm a Londoner but actually the city always swells to twice its normal population during summer. So not much change really. 07:27 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, oh, okay. 07:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway do you normally get paradropped queen? 07:27 -!- lukas||||||away [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:27 * ToAruShiroiNeko proposes the queen be paradropped wherever she goes 07:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even when changing rooms 07:27 < Tony_Sidaway> I like living in the place where, sooner or later, nearly everybody comes to visit. 07:27 < foks> Yeah I think you're placing this paradropped queen thing on a higher pedestal than the rest of the world, ToAruShiroiNeko. 07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> probably 07:28 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:28 < foks> Everyone in the UK stopped caring about twenty-four hours after 07:28 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: now I'm going to have to look at the article on the Olympic opening ceremony to see what you're talking about! :) 07:28 -!- OlEnglish [OlEnglish@wikipedia/OlEnglish] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+parachute&num=20&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=EskjUJa9AYnJhAfilYCAAg&ved=0CE8Q_AUoAw&biw=1920&bih=955 07:29 -!- EDI [~Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:30 < Tony_Sidaway> "The Queen was played by BASE jumper and stuntman Gary Connery, who wore a dress and hat identical to that worn by the Queen." Hurray. First ever transvestite Olympics. 07:30 < russavia> Wikipedians take to craigslist to hook up -- http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2012/07/4ffec39a93521.png 07:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway sure 07:31 -!- lukas||||||away [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:31 -!- LL2|Android [~LL2@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 07:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway a sweet transvestite from Transexual, Transylvania 07:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> err 07:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway the jumper was just a sweet transvestite from Transexual, Transylvania 07:33 < Tony_Sidaway> Don't dream it, ToAruShiroiNeko , be it. 07:33 * Dusti raises hand and asks for a Bureaucrat again 07:34 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dusti why not use their noticeboard 07:34 < Frood> Dusti: you might be best asking at [[WP:BN]] 07:34 * Dusti goes 07:36 < WilliamH_UK> dusti what for? 07:37 < Dusti> something I need done 07:37 < Dusti> I also need an admin if one happens to be watching 07:38 < Frood> Dusti: WilliamH_UK is both an admin and a crat! 07:38 < Frood> and a checkuser 07:38 < Tony_Sidaway> Extraordinary. The description of a single 16-second sequence from the Olympic opening ceremory (Frankie and June say...thanks Tim (21:52.22:09)) is several hundred words, but scarcely seems to do justice to the sheer amount of action in the sequence. Must watch the show one day. 07:39 < Frood> and maybe oversight? 07:39 < WilliamH_UK> yes oversight too 07:40 -!- Jetro [~Bruker@118.225.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:40 < Dusti> William's a little bit of everything 07:40 < Dusti> lol 07:40 < WilliamH_UK> I'm basically en.wiki's own steward :P 07:40 -!- Ironholds [~Ironholds@wikipedia/Ironholds] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:40 < IRWolfie-> :> 07:40 < Ironholds> yo dawgs 07:40 < IRWolfie-> o/ 07:40 < Dusti> Ironholds!!! 07:40 < Ironholds> hey IRWolfie-, Dusti 07:41 < IRWolfie-> (I should point out this is a wave: o/ ) 07:41 < Dusti> XD 07:41 < IRWolfie-> It gets misinterpreted sometimes 07:41 < Ironholds> heh 07:41 < Ironholds> I got it :) 07:41 < Frood> Hi Ironholds. 07:41 < Ironholds> hey Frood! 07:41 < Frood> oh crap i have to leave in less than an hour 07:41 < Frood> bai. 07:42 < Ironholds> how goes it in t'IRC? 07:42 < Tony_Sidaway> This is a hoot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vaQ0umiPI&feature=related 07:42 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:42 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:42 < Ironholds> byee :) 07:42 < Ironholds> yo, wctaiwan 07:42 < ChrisGualtieri> Oh noes Ironholds is leaving? 07:42 < Tony_Sidaway> A massive occultist ritual :) 07:42 < wctaiwan> hey Ironholds. 07:42 < Ironholds> ChrisGualtieri: no, Frood 07:42 < wctaiwan> Tony_Sidaway: you mean Wikimania? 07:42 * wctaiwan runs 07:43 -!- lukas||||||away [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:43 -!- lukas||||||away [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:43 -!- DeltaQuad is now known as DQ|work 07:43 -!- lukas||||||away is now known as lukas23 07:43 < ChrisGualtieri> Ironholds: Hey can I bug you about an idea I have? 07:43 < Ironholds> hmn; nickserv will not let me register more than one nick. bleh. 07:43 < Ironholds> ChrisGualtieri: sure! 07:43 < wctaiwan> gah, bugbites galore. 07:44 < Tony_Sidaway> Nuclear attack on the Olympics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vaQ0umiPI&feature=related 07:44 < Tony_Sidaway> The crazies are all at it. 07:44 < wctaiwan> Ironholds: whyever not? Just /nick to it and /nickserv group 07:45 < Tony_Sidaway> Apparently a series of cards issued by Steve Jackson Games in 1995 has predicted the future over and over again. 07:45 < IRWolfie-> wctaiwan: how many nicks are people allowed to hog? 07:45 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: point 07:45 -!- Ironholds is now known as Okeyes 07:45 -!- Okeyes is now known as Ironholds 07:45 < wctaiwan> IRWolfie-: something like 5. I can't remember 07:45 -!- IRWolfie- is now known as IRWolfie 07:46 < Ironholds> oh, shit 07:46 < Ironholds> is today the 9th? 07:46 -!- IRWolfie is now known as IRWolfie- 07:46 < IRWolfie-> yep 07:46 < wctaiwan> yep. 07:46 < Ironholds> crap 07:46 < Ironholds> we have a deployment today. 07:46 < IRWolfie-> special day? 07:46 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46 < IRWolfie-> aha 07:46 < wctaiwan> which? 07:46 < Dusti> Apparently the Illuminati will attack too 07:46 < Dusti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9JVHY4Vnds&feature=fvwrel 07:46 < Qcoder02> Tony_Sidaway: Have you seen the logo for Rio? 07:47 < Qcoder02> It looks like 'Fat Boy' ? 07:47 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: you know how the page patrolling thing has both a list view like Special:NewPages, and will have a twinkle-esque toolbar? 07:47 < wctaiwan> I sort of recall. 07:47 < wctaiwan> Okay, I see. Thanks. 07:47 < IRWolfie-> Dusti: no doubt when it completely fails to materialize it will be claimed as further evidence of the nefarious illumanti: they are sneaky like that 07:48 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: the second one 07:48 < Dusti> *snort* 07:48 < Ironholds> we're deploying the curation toolbar 07:48 < Ironholds> in a very early form, admittedly 07:48 < wctaiwan> o_O I thought that was newer than the new NPP thing, but okay. 07:48 < Qcoder02> Ironholds: Would you also like a toolbar for admins that allows you trourt silly noobs? 07:48 < Qcoder02> *to trout 07:48 < Dusti> !trout Ironholds 07:49 < Dusti> :( 07:49 < Ironholds> Dusti: why? 07:49 < Dusti> I saw trout and ironholds 07:49 < Dusti> so I put it together 07:49 < Ironholds> Qcoder02: no. 07:49 < Dusti> but I don't exist... so you know 07:49 < Dusti> yolo 07:51 -!- uwe [~chatzilla@41.130.116.191] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:52 < uwe> Hello, I need to remove blockage of a certain IP on wikipedia-ar 07:52 < wctaiwan> this channel is specific to enwiki, uwe 07:53 < wctaiwan> there appears to be a channel for the arabic one at #wikipedia-ar 07:53 < Dusti> hence the -en 07:53 < uwe> should i try at #wikimedia-ops ? 07:53 < Dusti> no 07:53 < foks> no, that's for IRC operations 07:53 < Dusti> that's for chan ops 07:53 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: Quick reboot..] 07:53 < Dusti> you'll have to go to #wikipedia-ar 07:53 < uwe> yes, im there too , but there is no one there that can help 07:53 < Dusti> what's the block for? 07:54 < IRWolfie-> uwe: it's unlikely there is anyone relevant who can help you here 07:54 < uwe> it says open proxy, but has been blocked for months 07:54 < Dusti> proxy's generally remain blocked 07:54 < Dusti> for extended periods of time 07:54 < wctaiwan> what IRWolfie- said. I don't think most of us would be familiar with how blocks work on the arabic wikipedia. 07:54 < uwe> we did here wikipedia embassadors and now we have yet another workshop and we are blocked ... :S :S 07:54 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:55 < Dusti> try the meta wiki with a global sysop 07:55 < Dusti> maybe they can help 07:55 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:55 < uwe> Dusti: can you please point to me how to reach them ? 07:56 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:56 < Dusti> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops 07:56 -!- To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne [EVA@wikimedia/ToAruShiroiNeko] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:57 -!- Dusti is now known as Dusti|brb 07:57 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:57 < uwe> thanks ! 07:58 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@adsl-75-16-226-12.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:58 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@adsl-75-16-226-12.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:58 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@wikipedia/Bob-the-Wikipedian] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:58 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:58 -!- ToAruShiroiNeko [EVA@wikimedia/ToAruShiroiNeko] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:58 -!- To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne is now known as ToAruShiroiNeko 07:59 * jc33 is a proxy-buster 08:00 < jc33> can someone pm me? 08:00 < jc33> nvm 08:02 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:03 < foks> ? 08:04 -!- Anto|away is now known as Antonorsi 08:05 < Ironholds> jc33: thanks for the report of the WMF sock, btw. 08:06 < jc33> np 08:06 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 08:10 < mattbuck> the wmf are socking now? 08:10 -!- Fluffernutter [Fluffernut@wikipedia/Fluffernutter] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:10 < Frood> O_o 08:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://plus.google.com/104234302931579992973/posts 08:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Oh my! 08:11 < jc33> btw, do you have any idea who it is? 08:11 < wctaiwan> staffers are always socking. 08:11 < BobTheWikipedian> lol 08:12 -!- outofband2 [outofband2@bzq-218-150-20.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:12 < Frood> I'm about to nominate one of the most watched articles for deletion... I assume the watch number is a bug because the article is awful and the person doesn't seem notable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Evans_%28British_author%29 08:12 < Frood> *I think I'm about to 08:13 < Frood> meh, later. 08:13 -!- Frood is now known as MarchingFrood 08:13 < foks> I hate george takei 08:14 < Fluffernutter> he hates you too 08:14 < jc33> only when he's in Soviet Russia. 08:14 < foks> all over my fucking facebook 08:14 * foks growls 08:14 < IRWolfie-> MarchingFrood: according to http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/watcher.py?page=Richard_Evans_%28British_author%29 they are mostly inactive watchers 08:15 < IRWolfie-> but yeah, that number is insanely high 08:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Doesn't have a claim of notability 08:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Probably won't pass GNG unless we dive in 08:16 < wctaiwan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4sOfO8Ei1g#t=32 what's this logo? It seems very familiar but I can't pinpoint it. 08:17 -!- outofband2 [~abb@bzq-218-150-20.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:18 -!- uwe [~chatzilla@41.130.116.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:18 < IRWolfie-> which logo? 08:19 < wctaiwan> the one at that point in the video, or rather immediately after, next to "the kids" 08:20 * Fluffernutter hates articles that use external links in the body 08:21 < wctaiwan> eh, just axe them. There's no reason for them in 99.97% of the cases. 08:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks Oh my! 08:21 < wctaiwan> I think that's what WP:EL recommends too. 08:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks you just dislike japanese space travelers :p 08:22 < IRWolfie-> it's being used as a reference but they messed it up 08:22 < Fluffernutter> foks hates everyone, he's just that badass 08:22 < foks> I dislike those plastering shit all over facebook 08:22 < foks> save it for reddit and that please 08:23 < IRWolfie-> aha, I see you got there before me 08:25 < IRWolfie-> lot of dead links 08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks hmm 08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is google+ 08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its meant to be for shit 08:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its not serious business like facebook 08:28 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:29 -!- uwe [~chatzilla@41.130.116.191] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:30 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Quit: !] 08:31 -!- Dusti|brb is now known as Dusti 08:31 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@cpc30-mfld14-2-0-cust151.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:31 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@cpc30-mfld14-2-0-cust151.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:31 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@wikipedia/Dougweller] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:32 -!- Bruvtakesover_ [~kiewii@5add557a.bb.sky.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:33 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:33 -!- Bruvtakesover_ is now known as Bruvtakesover 08:33 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@5add557a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:33 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:35 -!- uwe [~chatzilla@41.130.116.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:37 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:40 -!- benzband [5c8ff29a@wikipedia/benzband] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:40 < Tony_Sidaway> O 08:41 < benzband> (o___O) ? 08:41 < Fluffernutter> -1 08:41 -!- wehwalt [4462af34@wikipedia/Wehwalt] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:41 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip72-193-246-5.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 08:41 < Tony_Sidaway> I'm watching the Olympic opening ceremony now on BBC iPlayer. It's rather odd. As in famous playwright and engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel declaiming a speech from his most famous play, The Tempest. 08:42 < mattbuck> it's a good ceremony 08:42 < wehwalt> In British English, is it reinvigorate or reinvigourate? 08:42 < mattbuck> the former 08:42 < benzband> <troll> reinvigoorate </troll> 08:42 < wehwalt> ok, thanks. Thought so by the ghits 08:43 < Tony_Sidaway> The "our" stuff is from French. In the middle of a word, though, generally it's from the Latin root (-or). 08:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Actually that's bollocks. Favourite, not favorite. I give up. 08:43 < wehwalt> Thanks, I'm writing in British English and that's one I wasn't certain on 08:44 < benzband> the "sour grapes" stuff is from french? ^^ 08:44 < wctaiwan> wehwalt: what for? 08:44 < wehwalt> Muhammad Ali Jinnah 08:44 < wctaiwan> benzband: hahaha 08:44 < wctaiwan> Oh, because the article uses British English? 08:44 < Tony_Sidaway> Isambard Kingdom Shakespeare now looks well pleased, having overseen the building of some dark satanic mills. 08:44 < wctaiwan> pff thought it was something more interesting :p 08:44 -!- quanticle|away is now known as quanticle 08:45 < wehwalt> Well, it should, wasn't positive if there's a distinctive Indian/Pakistani spelling, but it's the most logical. The article had a mix of styles 08:45 < wctaiwan> ah. 08:46 < wehwalt> I'm about half done, after that will be working on salvaging PumpkinSky's former FAs 08:46 < wctaiwan> Good luck. 08:46 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:46 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:46 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:46 < wehwalt> thx. I'd like to watch the Opening clear through too. NBC doesn't offer it 08:47 < mattbuck> go torrent it then 08:47 < wehwalt> Don't do torrents 08:47 < wehwalt> I will be in the UK in November, maybe then if I have a spare four hours 08:48 < Ironholds> wehwalt: you will? 08:48 * Ironholds makes holiday plans, stat. 08:48 < wehwalt> Yes, from about November 4 - 11. 08:48 < Tony_Sidaway> Colonial English is a bit of a chimera of different spellings. 08:48 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [] 08:50 < wehwalt> I figure enough people are watching the article I'll be corrected if I make any mistakes along that front. 08:52 < Tony_Sidaway> Brunel was basically French, anyway. 08:52 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:52 < Tony_Sidaway> It's almost as bad as saying Alexander Graham Bell was American. 08:54 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:55 < wehwalt> Well, reinvigorate it is then. I just needed an alternative for "revive" 08:56 < Ironholds> revive in the moving-from-dead-to-alive context? 08:59 < Matthew_> Can I get some admin help for a histmerge, please? 08:59 < benzband> you could bribe Ironholds there 08:59 < Matthew_> Ironholds: Are you busy? 09:01 < Ironholds> I have a deployment today 09:01 < Ironholds> so, yes :) 09:02 < Matthew_> Darn... 09:02 -!- benzband is now known as benzband|away 09:02 < Isarra> Where's petan when I need to pick someone's brains? 09:02 -!- Jetro [~Bruker@118.225.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:03 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:03 < Ironholds> Isarra: spain 09:04 < Isarra> Dang. 09:04 < Isarra> Or something. 09:04 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 09:05 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:06 -!- custardcow is now known as mrmist 09:06 -!- benzband|away [5c8ff29a@wikipedia/benzband] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra petan as far as I know is captured by spanish volunteers 09:07 < Isarra> So I need to kidnap someone else, eh? 09:08 < Matthew_> Is there an admin around that can do a histmerge for me please? 09:08 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:09 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has left #wikipedia-en [] 09:09 < Isarra> Make me an admin and I'll do it. 09:09 < Isarra> Of course, the cost of that could be... huge. 09:09 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:09 < jc33> sry - was trying to click-channel-name-and-part in chatzilla, and it's a bit laggy, since I was in about 30 channels 09:09 * Isarra wouldn't intentionally destroy the wiki, but... 09:09 < Matthew_> Heh, would do it myself, but I don't have the admin bit either.. 09:10 * Ironholds knows how to destroy the wiki with the admin bit 09:10 < mareklug> Irish woman wins gold in boxing, Ireland's first gold medal. 09:10 * Isarra knows how to destroy it without an admin bit. 09:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug so will you mess with irish women again? 09:10 < Isarra> But that at least is harder. 09:10 < mareklug> never 09:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they may punch you to see golden medals circling 09:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds I dont believe you 09:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> prove by demostrating 09:11 < Ironholds> delete template:! 09:11 < Ironholds> done. 09:11 < Ironholds> every. pipe. on enwiki. breaks. 09:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not really 09:11 < Dusti> will there be flooding? 09:11 < Ironholds> and more importantly, pretty much every page and template empties its cache and needs to be refreshed. 09:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> a better method would be replacing {{!}} with goatse 09:12 < Dusti> I htink you should do more like mass delete a few users with massive edits 09:12 < Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: it would die for the same reason 09:12 < Ironholds> Dusti: you cannae delete accounts 09:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes but far more disgruntled users 09:12 < Dusti> no no no - edits - not users 09:12 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:12 < Dusti> Special:Nuke 09:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds you can with db access 09:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Drop users table, done 09:13 < Isarra> Which one? 09:13 < Isarra> There are several. 09:13 -!- Qcoder02_ [~chatzilla@dyn-62-56-70-233.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:14 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> drop all tables then 09:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> drop db 09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the end of them wiki 09:16 < Isarra> Which database? 09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> all 09:16 < Dusti> someone's obviously thought about killing the wiki ^ 09:16 < Isarra> That's a few. 09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ya 09:16 < Matthew_> Heh, there's an even easier way. 09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dusti not really 09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes pull the netowrk cable 09:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dope server kitties 09:17 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:17 < Matthew_> Have your web host delete your localsettings.php file because of a buffer overflow. That way, there's no way the wiki is usable >.> (true story) 09:17 -!- Qcoder02_ is now known as Qcoder02 09:17 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@dyn-62-56-70-233.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 09:17 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:17 -!- ipatrol [~ipatrol@wikimedia/Ipatrol] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:17 < foks> Were is Chinese Taipei? 09:17 < foks> * Where 09:17 < Ironholds> foks: Taipei 09:18 < Ironholds> but the chinese get pissy if you call it Taipei 09:18 < foks> lol 09:18 < Ironholds> so for olympic purposes it has a different name, flag and anthem. which is dumb. 09:18 < foks> They have a pretty sweet-ass flag. 09:18 < Ironholds> cuz if we banned the chinese from participating we could be nice to taipei AND get more gold medals! 09:18 < mareklug> Taiwan. the Chinese insisted it was called Chinese Taipei 09:18 < ipatrol> Because it's *Chinese* taipei 09:18 < foks> Oh. 09:19 < foks> So "Taiwan". XD 09:19 < ipatrol> only thing worse than socialist nationalists are national socialists 09:19 < foks> That would explain the Olympic rings in the flag. 09:20 * foks facepalms@self 09:20 -!- Rastrojo [~mongo_es@unaffiliated/rastrojo] has quit [Quit: ESPANHA UMA E NÃO CINQUENTA E UMA] 09:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks its taiwan 09:20 < foks> We've established that, yes. 09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks actually that was incorrect 09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its Republic of China 09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> unlike People's Republic of China 09:21 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:21 < foks> Same difference as far as I'm concerned 09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well 09:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> only one is a UN member 09:21 < Matthew_> foks: You got a second to do a histmerge? 09:21 < foks> yes 09:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks will merge your histories 09:22 < Matthew_> Awesome! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_weapons and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Heavy_weapons need to be histmerged to the Articles for Creation page. 09:22 < mareklug> as far as Taiwan is concerned, also. since some time ago ROC and Taiwan are officially synonyms 09:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ROC used to be a permanent member of the UNSC as well 09:22 < foks> Matthew_, huh? 09:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the only permanent members currently are the US and the UK 09:23 < foks> You want them merged to the Articles for Creation title? 09:23 < Matthew_> foks: Yes, please. 09:23 < wehwalt> US, UK, Russia, France, and China, actually 09:25 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko: "There are 15 members of the Security Council, consisting of five veto-wielding permanent members—China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States—based on the great powers that were the victors of World War II,[1] and 10 elected non-permanent members with two-year terms." 09:25 < foks> Matthew_, there you go 09:25 < Matthew_> foks: Thank you. 09:25 < foks> No problem - it's a bit of a mess still. 09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> wehwalt Russia France and China changed 09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> USSR was the former member 09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Whats today is Taiwan used to hold the title which was then given to whats commonly known as China 09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> France changed as a country as well 09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they used to own algeria IIRC 09:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> one of the northern african countries 09:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so you are left with US and UK 09:27 < mareklug> well USA used to own the Panama Canal Zone, for crying out loud 09:27 < wehwalt> ToAruShiroiNeko: France is smaller than it was, in its own mind, as it considered Algeria as part of Metropolitan France. However, it's still the same Republic of France. 09:27 < ipatrol> and the Phillipines 09:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug yes but US constitution didnt get rebooted 09:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> France did 09:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> even their NATO membership was changed after the change 09:29 < wehwalt> I think we're talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Fifth_Republic#Origins 09:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yup 09:32 < mareklug> in int. law there is a concept of a successor state, so France and Russia easily fill their slots continuously. The PRC for ROC is a real change. 09:33 < Qcoder02> The 5 permenant members are also the only declared nuclear weapons states 09:34 < mareklug> um, Pakistan declared that it has nuclear weapons. Didn't India, as well? 09:34 < Qcoder02> 'declared' by virtue of a specfic treaty IIRC 09:34 < Qcoder02> which was made before India and Pakistan declared 09:35 -!- James_F_ [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:36 -!- Resfirestar [sam@r74-195-212-95.end1cmtc01.enidok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:36 -!- Resfirestar [sam@r74-195-212-95.end1cmtc01.enidok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:36 -!- Resfirestar [sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:36 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:37 -!- James_F_ is now known as James_F|Away 09:37 -!- Mdann52 is now known as Mdann52_away 09:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> umm 09:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> france is a very late nuclear power 09:39 < mareklug> considering that radioactivity was discovered there…. 09:39 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mareklug kind of irrelevant in terms of nuclear weapons 09:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> IMHO france was better of without having nukes 09:40 < mareklug> the English-speaking countries won all the gold medals in women's boxing: GBR, IRL, USA 09:41 < mysterytrey> What happened to the 100%s as RfA? 09:42 -!- Mdann52_away is now known as Mdann52 09:44 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@cpc1-dudl6-0-0-cust1981.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:44 -!- groupuscule_ [4a3c9c67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.60.156.103] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:44 -!- ipatrol [~ipatrol@wikimedia/Ipatrol] has quit [Quit: TCP FIN] 09:46 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:46 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@69-11-115-198.regn.wbbi.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:46 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@69-11-115-198.regn.wbbi.static.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Changing host] 09:46 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:46 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47 -!- rr0 [kvirc@wikipedia/ruslik0] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:47 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:47 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@Wikimedia/Seddon] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:48 -!- Nix-7c0 [~Owner@h105.117.232.68.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48 -!- Nix-7c0 [~Owner@h105.117.232.68.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:53 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:54 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:54 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:55 < mareklug> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#History <-- not so late comer to nukes as you let on 09:57 < Dusti> I need an admin - who's around 09:57 -!- foks is now known as foks|vaek 09:58 < Dusti> WilliamH_UK? 09:58 < Mdann52> What do you need an admin for (btw, I'm not one) 09:59 < Dusti> I need a right restored 09:59 -!- LoganCloud [u938@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kjwxojsgvbkkuiji] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:59 -!- LoganCloud [u938@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kjwxojsgvbkkuiji] has quit [Changing host] 09:59 -!- LoganCloud [u938@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:00 -!- uwe [~chatzilla@41.130.116.191] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:01 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:02 -!- groupuscule_ [4a3c9c67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.60.156.103] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:02 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 10:02 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 10:02 < Mdann52> Have you got one yet? 10:03 -!- Jetro [~Bruker@118.225.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:04 < WilliamH_UK> yup 10:04 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-22-153.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:05 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:06 -!- Jetro [~Bruker@118.225.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Client Quit] 10:06 -!- Jetro [~Bruker@118.225.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:07 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-28-11.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:07 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:07 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-28-11.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:08 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: Later!] 10:09 < BobTheWikipedian> it's all coming together now... 10:10 < BobTheWikipedian> employers clearly use their job application interface as a means for reducing the number of applications they have to actually review 10:11 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-22-153.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:11 < mysterytrey> So getting board? 10:11 < mysterytrey> *bored 10:12 < BobTheWikipedian> bored can hardly describe it....frustrated, too 10:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am getting a board just because I am bored 10:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian why have people applying for jobs, firing is so much more fun for them 10:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> fire all staff and be done with it 10:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and as a last action fire self 10:13 < BobTheWikipedian> between highly cryptic passwords, timeouts if you haven't got everything ready to attach, copy, and paste, general dysfunctionalities scattered about the application processes...it makes the recruiter's life easier to have fewer applicants 10:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> which is why companies do not get the best and the brightest 10:14 < BobTheWikipedian> exactly 10:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and instead get the stubborn and bored 10:14 -!- groupuscule74 [4a3c9c67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.60.156.103] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:14 < BobTheWikipedian> rather, they get the ones who have just enough patience to submit an application 10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yup 10:15 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:15 < BobTheWikipedian> which is why i stand such a good chance :D 10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I think thats what I call stubborn 10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian no way 10:15 -!- Bruvtakesover_ [~kiewii@5e03c3cc.bb.sky.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they will probably hire BobTheWikimedian 10:15 < BobTheWikipedian> great. i've locked myself out of my disney careers account. 10:16 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Quit: Changing client] 10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you are applying to disney? 10:16 < BobTheWikipedian> yes, to secure music copyrights 10:16 < BobTheWikipedian> licensing for music in films et cetera 10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah 10:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nicw 10:16 < BobTheWikipedian> thanks :) got some small business experience there 10:17 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:17 -!- groupuscule74 [4a3c9c67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.60.156.103] has left #wikipedia-en [] 10:17 < BobTheWikipedian> and i figured, aw, why not see if i can get this? 10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> the only thing that stands in my way is the "forgot password" system malfunctioning 10:18 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:18 -!- Bruvtakesover_ is now known as Bruvtakesover 10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> and apparently the "reset password" system, too 10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian well you shouldnt have forgotten it 10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> trhy 12345 10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *try 10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> lol i tried all of them i could think of 10:18 < BobTheWikipedian> i think i've been locked out for good 10:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> call them? 10:19 < BobTheWikipedian> hmmm. not sure whether to call disney, kenexa, or brassring 10:20 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:20 < mysterytrey> You should apply to be mickey mouse. 10:20 < mysterytrey> I have no clue why the fuck I just said that, but I did. 10:21 -!- WilliamH_UK [~WilliamH_@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:23 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:23 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:24 < BobTheWikipedian> in the 2008 election, mickey mouse got a record high number of votes for president 10:24 < BobTheWikipedian> his own personal record that is 10:24 < BobTheWikipedian> i believe i learned this from wikipedia 10:27 -!- outofband2 [~abb@bzq-218-150-20.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 10:28 -!- Earwig [~earwig@wikipedia/The-Earwig] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:28 * Peter-C waddles around 10:30 < BobTheWikipedian> "In Nevada, 6,251 votes were cast for "None Of These Candidates".[215] In the three states that officially keep track of "blank" votes for President, 103,193 votes were recorded as "blank".[216] More than 100,000 write-in votes were cast and recorded for a scattering of other candidates, including 62 votes for "Santa Claus" (in ten states) and 11 votes for "Mickey Mouse" (in five states).[217]" 10:30 -!- foks|vaek is now known as foks 10:31 < BobTheWikipedian> santa claus for prez :D 10:31 -!- uwe [~chatzilla@41.130.116.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:33 < mysterytrey> Or... Barack Obama for {{subst:santa clauses job decription}} 10:34 -!- quanticle is now known as quanticle|away 10:36 < mysterytrey> We should so make that a template. 10:36 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:36 -!- Apheori [~dirien@174-29-156-199.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:36 -!- Apheori [~dirien@174-29-156-199.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:36 -!- Apheori [~dirien@wikimedia/Isarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:36 < Apheori> I love you guys. 10:37 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:37 < Ironholds> of course you do, we rock 10:37 < Apheori> Indeed. 10:38 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-2-26.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:38 < BarkingFish> evening dudes 10:38 < Apheori> G'day. 10:38 < BobTheWikipedian> good afternoon 10:39 < Peter-C> Sup 10:39 < BarkingFish> sky 10:39 < Apheori> My eyeballs hurt. 10:39 < BobTheWikipedian> mornings are so long, afternoons and evenings are short. what's up with that. :P 10:39 < Peter-C> Apheori - lemme take a look 10:39 * Apheori punches Peter-C. 10:39 -!- dungodung|away is now known as dungodung 10:39 * Peter-C pulls out Apheori’s eye and looks 10:40 < Apheori> Stay the hell away from me. 10:40 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 10:40 * Peter-C eats Apheori eye 10:40 < BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, not a clue. I guess the evenings are getting longer this side of the planet, thanks to british summer time... I wonder what days and nights would be like if we didn't move the clocks... 10:40 < mysterytrey> Is that a new fetish? 10:41 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@216.38.130.163] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:41 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@216.38.130.163] has quit [Changing host] 10:41 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:41 < Apheori> BarkingFish: Less confusing. 10:41 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:41 < BobTheWikipedian> clocks mean nothing except that you are late getting somewhere 10:41 < BarkingFish> Apheori, yeah - i mean what would they be like in respect of periods of daylight/darkness 10:41 < Apheori> Oh. 10:41 -!- James_F|Away [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42 < Apheori> Bob's right. 10:42 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@95.235.126.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:42 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@95.235.126.236] has quit [Changing host] 10:42 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:42 < BobTheWikipedian> there. finally got my reset password email :P 10:42 < BarkingFish> at the moment, once our clocks go forward, the day seems to get longer up to a certain point, then shorter once we're past it (June 21st i think is what they call the longest day) 10:43 < BarkingFish> then once they go back, by around 3 or 4pm it's getting dark. 10:43 < BarkingFish> it's a pain in the ass, and I wish we didn't do it :) 10:43 < Apheori> I find having my clocks set to a completely arbitrary and non-applicable timezone helps remove illusions of DST and the like helping. 10:44 < BobTheWikipedian> actually, i was referring to how mornings are like 11 hours, afternoons are 6 hours, and evenings are 7 hours 10:44 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:44 -!- tkazec [~msk@173.247.10.144] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:44 < Apheori> Mornings are 12 hours. 10:44 < Peter-C> James_F - Where’s my visual editor 10:44 < Apheori> They overlap with night. 10:44 < BobTheWikipedian> i don't consider 12 - 12:59 morning 10:44 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Client Quit] 10:44 < BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, I suppose that's subjective. I consider it to be any time after midnight is morning, since the clock reverts to AM 10:45 < Apheori> Well you SHOULD! 10:45 < Apheori> Because magical fairies. 10:45 < BobTheWikipedian> midnight in the morning? 10:45 < BarkingFish> so midnight to 11.59am is morning 10:45 < Apheori> Why not? 10:45 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:45 < Qcoder02> Hi barkingFish 10:45 < BobTheWikipedian> i've never heard someone say "it's 12 o'clock in the morning" 10:45 < Qcoder02> PM 10:45 < BarkingFish> hi Qcoder02 10:45 < Apheori> But either way there's overlap. 10:45 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45 < Apheori> Some overlap with afternoon and evening, too, but much less. 10:46 < Apheori> BobTheWikipedian: I have, 10:46 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:46 < Apheori> . 10:46 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah, afternoon vs. evening gets debatable around 4, 5 10:46 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:46 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:47 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47 < Ironholds> BobTheWikipedian: in the UK, we say that all the time 10:47 < Ironholds> 12 in the morning or 12 in the evening 10:47 < Ironholds> to distinguish 10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> which is which? 10:47 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:47 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> is noon evening? 10:47 < Ironholds> 12 in the morning is the hour after 11am, 12 in the evening is midnight 10:47 < Ironholds> because we're a contrary folk 10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> :D 10:47 < BobTheWikipedian> makes sense 10:47 < Apheori> Whereas here we do it the other way around. 10:47 < BarkingFish> Ironholds, then I'm contrary to you :) 10:48 < BarkingFish> As I always pretty much have been 10:48 < Apheori> Frankly neither make much sense. 10:48 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:48 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48 * BobTheWikipedian agrees with apheori 10:48 < Peter-C> James_F - vistual editor 10:48 < Peter-C> hand it over 10:48 < Ironholds> Peter-C, do me a favour? 10:48 < Apheori> But that's a what the hell kind of arbitrary number is 12 problem, at least for me. 10:48 < Ironholds> appreciate that James has, at best, been work for two hours 10:48 < Ironholds> and has shit to do 10:48 < foks> James' connection is clearly a little bit shit at the moment 10:48 < Ironholds> and shut up ;p 10:48 < BobTheWikipedian> calling anything morning after 11:59 seems odd...and anything before 5 being evening seems odd 10:48 < BarkingFish> AM to me is morning, regardless of the time. If it's 12.05AM, I say it's five past twelve in the morning 10:48 < Peter-C> :p 10:49 < BarkingFish> and 12.05AM is 00:05 10:49 < Apheori> Morning is also just relative to perception. 10:49 < Qcoder02> Afternoon Peter-C 10:49 < Peter-C> hi 10:49 < Qcoder02> Peter-C: Uo for a triva question? 10:49 < Apheori> If the sun went down at 3 in the afternoon, it ws probably already evening. 10:49 < Peter-C> naw 10:49 < BobTheWikipedian> the t.v. guide says morning and evening are 7 to 11:59, afternoon and late night are 12 to 6:59 10:49 < Apheori> And if you got up at 3 in the afternoon, you might call that morning too. 10:49 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has quit [Quit: jorm] 10:50 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:50 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50 < Apheori> Now if we could all just start using 24-hour spans to define our hours, you know how much that would simplify things? 10:50 < Apheori> 24 is a stupid number, but still. 10:50 < BobTheWikipedian> we should have 25 hours 10:51 < foks> ...why 10:51 < BobTheWikipedian> more wikipedia time 10:51 < Apheori> 25 is more stupid. 10:51 < BobTheWikipedian> 27? 10:51 < Ironholds> lets open a request for comment on altering the number of hours in a day 10:51 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:51 < Ironholds> everyone knows if it's on Wikipedia, it must be true 10:51 < Qcoder02> 24 is used because it has a lot of useufl factors 10:51 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51 < Qcoder02> ;) 10:52 < Ironholds> ergo we can alter THE VERY FABRIC OF TIME ITSELF MUAHAHAH 10:52 < Peter-C> D: 10:52 < Qcoder02> Ironholds: You are the Master ? 10:52 < Qcoder02> XD 10:52 < Apheori> Exactly. 10:52 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:52 -!- James_F [~jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:53 < Peter-C> James_F needs to buy a proper connection 10:53 < BobTheWikipedian> this is all reminiscent of indiana's bill that nearly passed which would have mandated teachers in schools teach any of three inaccurate ways for calculating the value of pi 10:53 < Ironholds> Peter-C: he's at the office 10:53 < Peter-C> You need better connection in the office then 10:53 < Apheori> BobTheWikipedian: Wikipedia is bigger! 10:53 -!- Dusti is now known as Dusti|bbl 10:53 < BobTheWikipedian> :D 10:53 < BobTheWikipedian> les duit! 10:53 < BarkingFish> You want to be thankful you don't live in a Swahili speaking area of the world, Apheori and BobTheWikipedian - just like I'm thankful. The way they tell time is utterly weird. 10:53 < Qcoder02> Apheroi: Bigger than Jesus? 10:53 < Qcoder02> XD 10:54 -!- James_F [~james_f@216.38.130.166] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:54 < Ironholds> Qcoder02: nice pop culture reference 10:54 < BobTheWikipedian> i could live on zulu time though barkingfish 10:54 < BarkingFish> Try this as an example: The day starts from sunrise, not from midnight. 10:54 -!- PeterSymonds [~Peter@wikimedia/PeterSymonds] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:54 -!- James_F [~james_f@216.38.130.166] has quit [Changing host] 10:54 -!- James_F [~james_f@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:54 < Peter-C> James_F - buy better interwebs 10:54 < Ironholds> BobTheWikipedian: I *do* live on zulu time 10:54 < BobTheWikipedian> i heard the beatles were officially pardoned recently for that 10:54 < BarkingFish> So what we would call 6AM, on the swahili clock is 12.00 - 7AM is 1.00 on the Swahili clock - 1 hour after sunrise. 10:54 -!- James_F [~james_f@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55 < Qcoder02> Do you mean a pardon? Or do you mean given a remission? 10:55 < BobTheWikipedian> zulu time plus british summer time, yes 10:55 < Ironholds> (for the uninitiated; using the NATO phonetic alphabet, zulu is used to represent UTC) 10:55 < Ironholds> BobTheWikipedian: indeed 10:55 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:55 < BobTheWikipedian> like the pope forgave them for it 10:55 < Qcoder02> Oh 10:55 -!- wehwalt [4462af34@wikipedia/Wehwalt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:55 < BarkingFish> So at 11.05 in the morning, if you asked the time, I would tell you it was 5.05 10:55 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-2-26.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:56 < BarkingFish> Now that just utterly fucks with my brain 10:56 -!- Amasome [~batman@49.203.121.129] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:56 < BobTheWikipedian> it is 5:57 zulu time :) 10:56 < BobTheWikipedian> guess what time it is in evansville 10:56 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:56 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:56 < BarkingFish> 11.57AM? 10:56 < BobTheWikipedian> nope 10:57 < BarkingFish> I'm trying to think... which state is Evansville in? 10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> GMT -5 10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> indiana 10:57 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:57 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> indiana is on GMT -6/-6 10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> oops -6/-5 10:57 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:57 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> and actually that is also wrong 10:57 < BarkingFish> 12.57 then? 10:57 < BobTheWikipedian> yes 10:58 < BobTheWikipedian> indiana is on GMT -4/-5 and -6/-5. two time zones. 10:58 < BarkingFish> 0.o how the fuck do you manage that? You cross 2 US time zones? 10:59 < BobTheWikipedian> i live practically on the time zone border 10:59 -!- Jamietw [~Jamietw@wikimedia/Jamietw] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:59 < Amasome> helo 10:59 < BobTheWikipedian> when there's an event going on around here, it's either "evansville time" or "jasper time" 10:59 < BarkingFish> Damn, BobTheWikipedian - that must get confusing 10:59 < Qcoder02> Amasome: Please state your name and clearance level 10:59 < Qcoder02> ;) 11:00 < BobTheWikipedian> the poor folks in dale can't remember whether they're on evansville or jasper, though :( 11:00 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - how is the job hunt 11:00 < BobTheWikipedian> :P slow. but thanks for asking :) 11:00 < Peter-C> Ever hear back from Sony? 11:01 < BobTheWikipedian> nope. forgot i even applied there. 11:01 -!- Keegan__ [~chatzilla@c-71-207-198-224.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:01 < BobTheWikipedian> YAY finally got logged into the disney career center. 11:02 < BobTheWikipedian> disney, say hello to persistant stubbornness! perfect ingredient for music copyright clearance! 11:02 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:02 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has quit [Changing host] 11:02 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:02 -!- rejuvyesh [~rejuvyesh@202.3.77.227] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:02 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:03 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:03 < mysterytrey> Was your password 54321curiousityrover ? 11:03 < BobTheWikipedian> no 11:03 < mysterytrey> Darn. 11:03 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:03 < mysterytrey> I should make that my nickserv password. 11:03 < BobTheWikipedian> that doesn't contain one of the following symbols: ~!@#$%^&*()_+=-`[]\{}|;':",./<>? 11:04 -!- Amasome [~batman@49.203.121.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:04 < mysterytrey> Was it Ç╩ÿ81MJ◄1 11:04 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - work at Hooters 11:05 < Peter-C> They make good wings there 11:05 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:05 < BobTheWikipedian> illegal characters, trey lol 11:05 < BobTheWikipedian> haha ptere 11:05 < BobTheWikipedian> peter too 11:05 -!- Amasome [~batman@49.203.121.129] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:06 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:07 < Peter-C> Oh for shit sake 11:07 < Peter-C> Shooting yourself with lightning will kill you and your hear and make it unviable for transplant 11:08 < BobTheWikipedian> *hair? 11:08 < Peter-C> *heart 11:08 -!- Jamietw [~Jamietw@wikimedia/Jamietw] has left #wikipedia-en [] 11:08 < mysterytrey> ♥ 11:08 < BobTheWikipedian> question 11:09 -!- aezop [~aezop@unaffiliated/aezop] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:09 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:09 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:09 < BobTheWikipedian> unless one lives in germany and has access to an extremely expensive facility designed specifically for generating lightning bolts, how does one do this? 11:10 < Peter-C> Obviously when you are in a sci-fi show 11:10 < SigmaWP> ASCII HEARTS ARE PISS ANNOYING 11:10 * SigmaWP huggles ty 11:10 < BarkingFish> BobTheWikipedian, you want to look at youtube, and see the number of people making home made transformers and HV arc generators. One guy has one on there that can do something like 1,000,000 volts or something, which is roughly what a lightning strike is, iirc 11:11 < BobTheWikipedian> also, jeremy on top gear proved that you can be in a car and struck by a super giant lightning bolt and be safe 11:11 < BobTheWikipedian> of course he had the car turned off and the windows rolled up 11:11 * ty huggles SigmaWP <3 11:11 < Qcoder02> BarkingFish: High voltage isn't always the problem 11:11 < mysterytrey> lowercase sigmas are piss annoying! 11:11 < Qcoder02> High Ampage is 11:11 < Peter-C> I need a converter for peruvian outlets 11:12 -!- TheCavalry [~Chase@wikipedia/Chase-me-ladies-Im-the-Cavalry] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:12 < mysterytrey> ¿ 11:12 < BobTheWikipedian> also assumed the recommended lightning-proof posture just before the lightning hit him 11:12 < BarkingFish> Qcoder02, a million volts at 1A will still kill you :) 11:12 -!- Jarry1250 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:12 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - you should become a medic in NYC 11:12 < Peter-C> It will be fun 11:12 < BobTheWikipedian> lol 11:12 < BobTheWikipedian> i'm sure it will be 11:13 < Peter-C> Think about all the stories you will get 11:13 < Peter-C> And Wiki meetups! :3 11:13 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll set records for most medic-induced accidental deaths at one clinic 11:13 < Peter-C> Working in cities is fun. So many gun shot wounds. 11:13 * BobTheWikipedian hates the thought of living in a big city 11:14 < Peter-C> Holy fuck, I am watching a TV show about NY EMS. 11:14 < Peter-C> http://www.dwarfentertainment.com/ 11:14 < Peter-C> They picked up a dancer from there 11:14 < Peter-C> xD 11:15 * BobTheWikipedian writes a cover letter for a job in burbank 11:15 < Peter-C> :O 11:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Someone is actually bothered by my edits >.> 11:15 < Peter-C> Mr. I Can’t See Myself In A Big City 11:15 < ChrisGualtieri> First time ever someone has complained about my edit speed 11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> then you are officially a wikipedian chrisgualtieri 11:16 < Peter-C> ^ 11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c i will live in a rural area nearby 11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> and commute daily 11:16 < ChrisGualtieri> I've only been active at 50-60% editing speed for awhile now 11:16 < Peter-C> Where is the job at? 11:16 < ChrisGualtieri> Still waiting for POM to load up 11:16 < Peter-C> A Buy More? 11:16 < BobTheWikipedian> walt disney pictures 11:17 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm not going to risk making this guy madder, but I am genuinely interested in why my edits are bugging him 11:17 < BobTheWikipedian> so politely ask him on his talk page... 11:19 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c, this is it: http://www.indeed.com/rc/clk?jk=95dda1e7bd99179f 11:19 < ChrisGualtieri> He's on my talk page 11:19 < Peter-C> You selling out? 11:19 < ChrisGualtieri> Is 20 edits a minute too fast btw? I'm just using Typoscan, its correction, not content creation 11:20 < BobTheWikipedian> there used to be a rule that bots couldn't edit more than fivefold a minute 11:20 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm not a bot though 11:20 < BobTheWikipedian> i've only seen one editor called out for violating that, and he was deemed a user, thus innocent 11:20 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny//html/community/ems_employment.shtml 11:20 < BobTheWikipedian> and he coined a new phrase "highly efficient editing" 11:20 < ChrisGualtieri> And I pass more then 50% of all articles without changes due to false positives that I can personally verify within a faction of a second 11:21 < BobTheWikipedian> haha no thanks peter 11:21 < Peter-C> D: 11:21 < BarkingFish> right, i'm out for a while - gonna go get some shopping done. Back later :) 11:21 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has quit [Quit: I used to be a werewolf, but I'm alright nooooOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! :)] 11:22 < BobTheWikipedian> now simple wikipedia is a different story; osiris called me out once for importing hundreds of templates at an alarming rate 11:22 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:22 < BobTheWikipedian> and then he had the community reconsider whether they really needed the automatic taxobox 11:22 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:22 < ChrisGualtieri> Bleh disconnected >.> hate ghosting 11:22 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:23 * BobTheWikipedian checks to see if osiris is here 11:23 < BobTheWikipedian> whew 11:23 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: tonynoname] 11:24 -!- SigmaWP is now known as CookiesAreAnnoyi 11:24 < BobTheWikipedian> chatzilla seems to do autoghosting for me in the background 11:24 -!- CookiesAreAnnoyi is now known as CookiesSuck 11:24 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 11:25 -!- Dusti|bbl [43c105ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.193.5.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:25 < BobTheWikipedian> reclaiming the nick as soon as possible 11:25 < BobTheWikipedian> actually...nvm. that's not ghosting 11:25 < mysterytrey> No. It really isn't. 11:25 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:25 < BobTheWikipedian> quite not 11:25 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:26 < James_F|Busy> Hey. 11:26 < mysterytrey> Hello.\ 11:26 < James_F|Busy> Gosh. I seem to have an actual connexion. 11:26 < Ironholds> James_F|Busy: indeed, which means I don't have to come down to 3rd and beat you 11:27 < BobTheWikipedian> ghost mysterytrey Ç╩ÿ81MJ◄1 11:27 < Ironholds> 19 connects and disconnects 11:27 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:27 < mysterytrey> nice. 11:27 < James_F|Busy> Yeah. I wasn't amused. 11:27 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:27 < jc33> 'ello? 11:27 < mysterytrey> but you have to login, then ghost 11:27 < Ironholds> hey, jc33 11:27 < BobTheWikipedian> ah. never tried it before :D 11:28 < jc33> When did I disconnect? :S 11:28 < BobTheWikipedian> when the squirrel tripped on your connection 11:29 < ChrisGualtieri> Hey Bob, can you link that case about edit speed 11:29 < ChrisGualtieri> I need a better response to this guy, he bugs other editors about their edit speed as well 11:29 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll see if i can find it quickly :) 11:29 < ChrisGualtieri> Thank you 11:29 < mysterytrey> jc33: I see 13:37 11:29 < mysterytrey> That's when you ping timeouted. 11:30 < jc33> ok 11:30 < jc33> thanks 11:31 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:32 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:32 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:32 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:32 < jc33> lovely, three wmf people in 10 seconds. 11:32 < Peter-C> Who did it. 11:32 < Fluffernutter> wifi win 11:32 < CookiesSuck> lol 11:32 < Peter-C> It wasn’t me 11:32 * Peter-C jumps out a window 11:33 < IRWolfie-> I didn't realize Dennis Brown's RFA was only in april, for some reason I'd assumed he'd been an admin for years 11:33 * yuvipanda pokes ragesoss 11:33 < Ironholds> Fluffernutter: only two of them are in the office :) 11:34 < Ironholds> jc33: and what's wrong with WMF people? ;p 11:34 < jc33> nothing :P 11:34 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:34 * jc33 was at Wikimania, though only before riding Amtrak to Trenton 11:35 < Ironholds> heh 11:35 * foks was at Wikimania also! 11:36 < Peter-C> omg me too 11:36 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Client Quit] 11:36 < ChrisGualtieri> He's also bugged Waacstats with it 11:36 < Peter-C> foks and I are twins 11:36 < foks> lies 11:37 * Ironholds was at wikimania, and then not, and then was again 11:37 -!- Dusti [43c105ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.193.5.186] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:38 * Mdann52 wasn't at Wikimania :( 11:38 < Peter-C> Lame. 11:38 * Peter-C tosses Mdann52 down a flight of stairs 11:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds so you were a quantum particle? 11:38 * ToAruShiroiNeko imagines Ironholds fading in and out of existence 11:38 -!- Matthew_ is now known as MRB[away] 11:39 < foks> Ironholds moved state halfway through for some reason 11:39 < Mdann52> I do have an excuse though 11:39 < Mdann52> I couldn't get there, even if I tried 11:39 < Peter-C> Why? 11:40 < Ironholds> foks: indeed 11:40 < Mdann52> Also, I'm under 18 11:40 < ChrisGualtieri> BobTheWikipedian: Did you find anything? 11:41 < BobTheWikipedian> workin on it, and a few other things 11:41 < foks> Mdann52, I'm ony 19, I got there easy enough 11:41 < Peter-C> I’m 16 and I went without my parents :3 11:41 < foks> :3 11:41 < foks> :3333 11:41 * foks travelled thousands of miles! Truffs! 11:41 < Mdann52> I'm not even 16 tho 11:41 < foks> oh. 11:41 < mysterytrey> Peter-C: Did you hitchhike? 11:42 < Peter-C> No, bus. 11:42 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 11:42 < mysterytrey> Cool. 11:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> foks I thought you would skip the age of 19 and go directly to 20 11:42 < foks> (Nope. 11:46 < Amasome> who is the developer of wikipedia 11:46 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - become a doctor the the a) chick, b) money, c) power, and d) chicks 11:46 < yuvipanda> and the maggot infested flesh you've to operate on 11:46 -!- MRB[away] [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:47 < Peter-C> Amasome - The Wikimedia Foundation 11:47 < Tony_Sidaway> Amasome: the software is developed by Wikimedia Foundation. The content by members of the public. 11:47 < BobTheWikipedian> lol peter 11:47 -!- Yume_Hikari [~Lisa_Logg@c-98-204-30-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:48 < ChrisGualtieri> Should I stop editing while waiting for this guy to reply? 11:48 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm getting really bored >.> 11:49 < Peter-C> No, screw him, keep editing 11:49 < yuvipanda> hmmm, anyone heard of any gadget/userscript that replaces edit window with something that has nicer syntax highlighting like http://codemirror.net/? 11:49 < Apheori> Tony_Sidaway: MediaWiki is built by a community of volunteer developers. The WMF mostly guides them and focusses on specific projects. 11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Amasome wikipedia has a volunteer of developers 11:49 < yuvipanda> I know there's a wiki editor gadget, but that doesn't seem to be my cup of tea... 11:49 -!- WilliamH_UK [WilliamH@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the content itself is also created by volunteers 11:49 < Qcoder02> Whats the collective term for coders? a Cabal? 11:50 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Qcoder02, no nerds 11:50 < Krenair> Development cabal? 11:50 < Qcoder02> Yeah 11:50 < yuvipanda> Qcoder02: herd? 11:50 < Apheori> A mob? 11:50 < Apheori> Oh wait that's wikimedians. 11:50 < Qcoder02> Apheori: That's Emacs users... ;) 11:50 < Qcoder02> If you say you use another editior 11:50 < Qcoder02> ;) 11:50 < ChrisGualtieri> I need a volunteer dev >.> 11:51 < Krenair> ? 11:51 < WilliamH_UK> oo I joined at the right time 11:51 < Krenair> what for? 11:51 < WilliamH_UK> anyone good with edit filters? 11:51 < Qcoder02> Seen jamesF? 11:51 < Jarry1250> WilliamH_UK: You can try me :) 11:51 < ChrisGualtieri> New tool programs to edit Wikipedia efficently! 11:51 < Apheori> I am good at using edit filters badly... 11:51 < WilliamH_UK> Jarry1250 I'll pm 11:51 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:52 < ChrisGualtieri> I triggered so many edit filters I got confirmed status to avoid them 11:52 < ChrisGualtieri> Then I got auto-confirm XD 11:52 -!- Dusti [43c105ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.193.5.186] has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:52 -!- Dusti [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/dusti] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:53 < WilliamH_UK> hi Dusti 11:53 < Amasome> great.....and thanks bob 11:53 < Dusti> heya 11:53 * yuvipanda pokes Jarry1250 11:54 < Jarry1250> Hey yvuipanda :) 11:54 < Jarry1250> Oooh, that reminds me I should install the app 11:54 < yuvipanda> hey Jarry1250 :) 11:54 < yuvipanda> indeed 11:55 < yuvipanda> it's mostly pretty stable and everything works :) 11:55 < yuvipanda> I just need to add images to the opening page, and stuff 11:55 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: what phone / version do you have? 11:55 < Peter-C> I just had a weird moment 11:55 < Peter-C> I was watching tv and I thought “I want that mans face” 11:55 < Jarry1250> yuvipanda: Samsung Galaxy Ace (Android 2.3, is it? I forget) 11:55 * Peter-C grabs a knife and tries to find the guy 11:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C you cut your hand 11:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you neeeded to hold it from the hilt 11:56 < Jasper_Deng> Heads up everyone! http://www.dailypaul.com/248082/can-someone-fix-the-wiki-on-2012-convention-ron-paul-missing-wa-la-and-nv 11:56 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: ah, nice :) 11:56 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: i just spent time yesterday to make it work on pre-ICS devices :) 11:56 < yuvipanda> Jarry1250: tell me issues and i'll file them at https://github.com/yuvipanda/WPSignpost/issues 11:56 * Jasper_Deng smells a banned user writing that article 11:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Jasper_Deng someone named paul maybe 11:57 -!- CookiesSuck is now known as SigmaWP 11:57 < Jasper_Deng> ToAruShiroiNeko: probably not 11:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p 11:57 < Peter-C> omg http://www.ems1.com/ems-oddities/articles/1326488-Just-ripped-me-to-ribbons-Face-chewing-victim-speaks-out/ 11:58 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Peter-C what of it? 11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> bathsalts are vicious stuff 11:58 -!- Mdann_temp [~androirc@95.235.126.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:58 < Peter-C> Excited delirum bro 11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as an EMT you have a high chance of meeting users 11:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I suggest you arm yourself with tasers 11:58 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm going to continue editing 11:58 < Peter-C> Not in my area, we do something worse here 11:59 * Apheori edits ChrisGualtieri. 11:59 < Peter-C> Actually; tasers are not allowed in NJ 11:59 -!- Amasome [~batman@49.203.121.129] has left #wikipedia-en [] 11:59 * SigmaWP eyes yuvipanda suspiciously 11:59 -!- Mdann52 [~androirc@wikipedia/Mdann52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ok then drag an M60 11:59 < BobTheWikipedian> chris i'm not finding it. need to have some lunch though and work on a cover letter for disney. the general gist of it was this; someone pointed out a user didn't have a bot flag, that user responded and said he was actually editing efficiently, case dropped. 11:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mount the m60 on top of the ambulancre 11:59 < jc33> There's no user on MW called 'Yuvipandan' 11:59 < ChrisGualtieri> Cool 11:59 < ChrisGualtieri> This was the message 11:59 < Peter-C> And here we have “pill parties” - this actually started in my town - people would bring pills to a part and put them in a punch bowl. Everyone would then take a handful of the pills and swallow them. 11:59 < ChrisGualtieri> Hi. Please read the rules of use for AWB, esp. point 2 which states "Don't edit too quickly; consider opening a bot account if you are regularly making more than a few edits a minute." 12:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Yuvipanda maybe 12:00 < jc33> but there's a 'yuvipanda' 12:00 < ChrisGualtieri> I found something from the archives about how opening a 'bot account' would actually be detrimental 12:00 < BobTheWikipedian> ah, is there a rule for this now? 12:00 -!- Bradford [b5b60fcf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.182.15.207] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:00 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:00 < BobTheWikipedian> or only if it's done using awb 12:00 < ChrisGualtieri> No... its been there forever, but AWB on Enwp versus other wikis are probably different 12:00 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: yeah, that's me. 12:00 -!- slaporte_ [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:00 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:00 < yuvipanda> someone made a mistake when granting me the claok :( 12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> forever for me = 2006ish 12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda you exist? 12:01 < yuvipanda> i need to go find someone to change it 12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> and many rules have reversed since then 12:01 < ChrisGualtieri> I remember the last time I was self concerned I was simply noted that I should not edit during primetime for hours on end 12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> lol 12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda just ask one of the wikimedia contacts to freenode 12:01 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: jc33 I do, indeed, exist 12:01 < jc33> ja, ok 12:01 < ChrisGualtieri> However nothing I do is controversial, I haven't had a false positive in the last 20,000 edits and I'm testing Regex's new rules. 12:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda o hai 12:01 < BobTheWikipedian> well anyway, ham sandwich time and then disney application time 12:02 < yuvipanda> ohai ToAruShiroiNeko :) 12:02 -!- jc33 is now known as jc41 12:02 < ChrisGualtieri> I have less then 24 hours of 'work' left 12:02 < yuvipanda> why did that come up? 12:02 < Apheori> Why disney? 12:02 -!- jc41 is now known as jc33 12:02 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:03 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 12:03 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: ^^ 12:03 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:03 -!- slaporte_ is now known as slaporte 12:04 -!- Mdann_temp [~androirc@95.235.126.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda can I trcik you in helping with data gathering? 12:05 < Bradford> ola 12:06 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: if the project is interesting, yes :D 12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well 12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I need help gathering membership dates 12:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> to UN, NATO etc 12:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> and that be placed on templates 12:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> task is similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMembership%2FData%2FBurma&diff=503075130&oldid=501854159 12:08 * yuvipanda peeks 12:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> A good chunk of the work is done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:International_membership_templates/Year 12:09 -!- Antonorsi is now known as Anto|away 12:10 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: hmm, so I'll need to 1. Parse out date of entry for countries that exist out of UN / NATO from somewhere else 2. Insert them appropriately into the template? 12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> essentially yes 12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> information is on wikipedia in most cases 12:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> such as UN memberhsip dates on the respective article 12:11 -!- Bradford [b5b60fcf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.182.15.207] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11 -!- Apheori [~dirien@wikimedia/Isarra] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ideally ISO format is reccomended but other formats should work too 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ie yyyy-mm-dd 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#Current_members 12:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> those are the dates 12:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#Current_members 12:12 < yuvipanda> ah 12:13 < yuvipanda> yes 12:13 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: looks doable, give me a bit 12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure 12:13 < Bruvtakesover> hi 12:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sometimes membership is complicated but those are exceptional 12:14 -!- TeeTylerToe [~terrafirm@pool-173-66-178-25.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if you can knock off UN, NATO, WTO, AU, AL and OIC I would be very greatful 12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since these are the ones with most members 12:15 -!- Jamietw [~Jamietw@wikimedia/Jamietw] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> NATO is complex though since there are types of membership 12:15 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: assuming there are pre-existing lists of these on wiki? 12:16 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@5e03c3cc.bb.sky.com] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:16 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-22-228.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:16 -!- James_F|Busy is now known as James_F|Away 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 12:17 < yuvipanda> okay, am doing it for UN 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> interpol doesnt have one but I have a pdf with the dates 12:17 < yuvipanda> if that works the others should be simple enough 12:17 -!- Jamietw [~Jamietw@wikimedia/Jamietw] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> bear in mind most of UN is done :) 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you should skip if date is already in 12:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> are you writing code? 12:17 < yuvipanda> of course ;) 12:18 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: i am 12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ok 12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> then may I suggest something 12:18 < yuvipanda> sure! 12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can use subst:time to convert date to ISO format 12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it would save me work if you can copy dates like this 12:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since you are coding you can perhaps overwrite the existing value 12:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since we as humans may have made mistakes 12:19 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:19 < ChrisGualtieri> How to I make a suggestion to amend the rule or remove a rule of AWB? 12:19 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-10-158.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:20 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: just to confirm, I'll have to edit all things of form https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Data/India&action=edit 12:20 < yuvipanda> and edit the dats 12:20 < yuvipanda> dates? 12:20 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> add or update whats there 12:20 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and you want the dates to be in YYYY-MM-DD format 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 12:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if there are two entries for |UN= the second one will be ignored 12:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Also, if you want a real challenge there is the matter of UN Security Council which is presented on wiki but in a semi cryptic manner 12:22 < yuvipanda> hmm, I've code that does template re-doing like this from AssessmentBar (heard of it?), but that wouldn't handle the switch at all 12:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_Nations_Security_Council 12:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont know what you use but a regex would do the trick to find that line 12:23 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:23 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: lxml.html + simple state machines ftw :D 12:24 < yuvipanda> html and regex in the same problem is asking for more problems 12:24 -!- linxon634 [~linxon634@85.26.234.253] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> also I want to maintain readability in the template so I want to see two spaces before each parameter if you can deal with it :/ 12:24 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I want to too, so I'd have made sure I put them in ;) 12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> these are all optional, I can run my bot to clean up if it is difficult to code 12:24 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright 12:25 < linxon634> ) 12:25 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has left #wikipedia-en ["parted"] 12:25 < linxon634> èç ðîññèè åñòü ðåáÿò? 12:25 < linxon634> êòî* 12:26 -!- yrtneg [~crazilon@wikipedia/yrtneg] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 < yrtneg> Good morning all 12:26 < linxon634> hi 12:27 -!- PhnomPencil [6036b718@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.54.183.24] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:27 -!- Matthew_ is now known as MRB[away] 12:28 < linxon634> .. who is from Russia?? 12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Russians? 12:28 < linxon634> yes) 12:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :D 12:29 < yrtneg> ToAru: Listen to the full album 18 & 18 B-Sides 12:29 < yrtneg> great album 12:29 < linxon634> what? 12:29 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda feel free to pm me since this channel will become difficult to follow after a while :) 12:30 < yrtneg> 18 & 18 B-Sides is the 12:30 < yrtneg> BEST 12:30 < yrtneg> ALBUM 12:31 < linxon634> whare are you from?) 12:31 < yrtneg> Me? 12:31 < linxon634> usa? 12:31 < linxon634> you 12:31 < yrtneg> Yes, San Antonio, TX, to be exact 12:31 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:32 < ChrisGualtieri> Hey Zhang 12:32 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Client Quit] 12:32 < linxon634> ) 12:33 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F|Busy 12:33 < yrtneg> bump 12:35 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:35 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: nah, I quite like fast flowing channels :D 12:35 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: which timezone are you on? 12:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> +1 gmt 12:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I just may miss comments posted here :p 12:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> so if I look like I am ignoring feel free to pm :D 12:36 < yuvipanda> ah, okay 12:37 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:38 -!- linxon634_ [~linxon634@85.26.235.43] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:38 -!- linxon634_ [~linxon634@85.26.235.43] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38 -!- linxon634_ [~linxon634@85.26.235.43] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:38 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-22-228.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: tonynoname3] 12:38 -!- MRB[away] [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Quit: Giant install process] 12:38 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-22-228.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:40 -!- PhnomPencil [6036b718@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.54.183.24] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:40 -!- linxon634 [~linxon634@85.26.234.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:41 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:42 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:42 < IRWolfie-> seriously WP:OUTCOMES is a pain in the ass 12:42 < IRWolfie-> whoever can dictate what's in that has a trump card at any AfD 12:44 -!- \h is now known as mh0 12:45 -!- Romaine [~R@wikipedia/romaine] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:45 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://pastebin.com/2drjesfz is UN Data 12:45 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: do I not need a bot account to make the edits? 12:47 -!- Romaine [~R@wikipedia/romaine] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:49 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:49 -!- rr0 [kvirc@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:50 < AzaToth> can anyone explain why people in the audience of a stadium are using flashes? 12:52 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:53 < pakaran> AzaToth, that's nothing 12:53 < pakaran> my CIT yea cmp, i worked a week in encironmental science 12:53 < pakaran> councelor training year at scout camp, that is 12:53 < pakaran> we had multiple students in the astronomy merit badge class trying to take flash photos of stars. 12:53 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:54 < GorillaWarfare> lol, read the first sentence of today's FA as "The Western Gangsta Dynasty was an important ruling dynasty of ancient Karnataka in India which lasted from about 350 to 1000 CE. " 12:54 < GorillaWarfare> Definitely had to reread 12:55 < AzaToth> pakaran: hehe 12:55 < AzaToth> GorillaWarfare: lol 12:55 < yuvipanda> I had a western gangsta dynasty close by? 12:55 * yuvipanda goes to read 12:56 -!- Jarry1250_ [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:56 < yuvipanda> hmm, never heard of them. Don't think they conquered us 12:56 < yrtneg> Actualyy they did 12:56 < yrtneg> in 2003 12:57 < SigmaWP> lol 12:57 * GorillaWarfare sighs 12:57 < GorillaWarfare> Academic advisors are something else 12:57 * Peter-C licks GorillaWarfare 12:57 -!- Jarry1250 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:57 -!- Jarry1250_ is now known as Jarry1250 12:57 -!- rejuvyesh [~rejuvyesh@202.3.77.227] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58 < GorillaWarfare> I got an email warning me that calc 3 won't count toward my computer engineering degree and that I should let her switch me into Linear Algebra/Differential Equations instead 12:59 < GorillaWarfare> She apparently missed that a) I've declared a math minor, which requires calc 3, and b) I just took LA/DE last semester -.- 13:01 < yrtneg> A LA/DE? Where did you lay down? 13:01 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:03 -!- aezop [~aezop@unaffiliated/aezop] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03 < BobTheWikipedian> firefox closed....40% of total RAM available again. reopening firefox... 13:03 < yuvipanda> anyone tell me ToAruShiroiNeko's wiki username so I can leave him a talkpage ping? 13:03 < AzaToth> BobTheWikipedian: just upgrade yee ram 13:04 < yuvipanda> hmm, nevermind. My brain started working again 13:04 < BobTheWikipedian> :( holdin out for windows 8 first, azatoth 13:04 < BobTheWikipedian> and a steady income 13:04 -!- Moe_Epsilon [~David@wikipedia/Moe-Epsilon] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:04 < yrtneg> "Windows 8 sucks gay gay gay" is understatement of the eternity 13:04 < AzaToth> BobTheWikipedian: 1. use linux instead of windows; 2. RAM is cheap 13:05 < yrtneg> 3. vi editor comes with it 13:05 < AzaToth> yea 13:05 < BobTheWikipedian> hey...even though i highly opposed the release of vista, i had to "upgrade" to vista in order to stay on top of the tech world 13:05 < foks> Linux is haaard 13:06 < BobTheWikipedian> if i want to say i can support a windows environment i darn well better know the latest version of windows 13:06 < AzaToth> foks: hardened 13:06 < AzaToth> you can support? 13:06 < foks> haaaaard 13:06 * foks tried to install it; failed 13:06 < AzaToth> I don't support a windows environment 13:06 < BobTheWikipedian> to some degree, yes. 13:06 < BobTheWikipedian> foks you aren't alone 13:06 < foks> Well, succeeding in completely fucking up my laptop anyway. 13:06 * foks needs to fix that at some point. 13:07 < AzaToth> foks: inser CD/DVD/USB click install - done 13:07 < AzaToth> insert* 13:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda haha 13:07 < foks> I did that. It failed. 13:07 < AzaToth> heh 13:07 -!- jc33 [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:07 < foks> Now I have swap partitions I can't use. 13:07 < foks> :D 13:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E7%99%BD%E3%81%84%E7%8C%AB 13:07 < foks> Hooray for linux etc 13:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats me 13:07 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: saw the link I sent you? 13:07 < AzaToth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:とある白い猫 13:07 < BobTheWikipedian> azatoth i tried to install linux got a message on my screen it said user error replace and strike any key when ready 13:07 < AzaToth> that works as well 13:08 < foks> Doesn't on this client :( 13:08 < AzaToth> BobTheWikipedian: lol 13:08 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'm thinking - I could make a spreadsheet out of everything under Membership/Data/, fill it up, then push it back into templates? 13:08 < AzaToth> foks: works under my _linux_ client 13:08 -!- Starsbye [~Admin@181-182-206-1.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:08 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Data/The%20Bahamas doesn't exist, but has a UN entry? 13:08 < ChrisGualtieri> Scary thing is I can read Japanese text >.> 13:08 -!- Starsbye is now known as StaritupS 13:08 < BobTheWikipedian> oo 13:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda it does exist 13:08 < foks> AzaToth, I very very rarely need to parse links with japanese text in them. 13:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sometimes countries have many names 13:08 < yrtneg> linux ftw FTFW 13:08 < foks> ;) 13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Bahamas 13:09 < foks> Linux would be lovely. Absolutely awesome. 13:09 < foks> If it fucking worked. 13:09 * foks growls 13:09 < BobTheWikipedian> i've used solaris before 13:09 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations#Current_members links to 'The Bahamas' 13:09 < AzaToth> foks: it's not what you can do with your computer; it's what your computer can do with you 13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda right 13:09 < BobTheWikipedian> and i've used linux on cd 13:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that was the older name of the country 13:09 < foks> AzaToth, philosoraptor? is that you? 13:09 < foks> <3 13:09 < AzaToth> ツ 13:09 < Tony_Sidaway> foks: what's wrong with Linux? 13:10 < foks> It doesn't install without corrupting my entire computer. 13:10 < foks> which is what it did! 13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> They officialy are "Commonwealth of The Bahamas" 13:10 < BobTheWikipedian> linux isn't newb friendly like windows used to be 13:10 < Tony_Sidaway> foks: which distribution? 13:10 < foks> Well, probably a slightly more complicated version of that. 13:10 < foks> Ubuntu! 13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda it is difficult to decide on a name for a country 13:10 < foks> It was installing, then it crashed during the install. 13:10 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so, the Membership/Data/* page should match the wikipedia page name no? 13:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda right it should 13:10 -!- WilliamH_UK [WilliamH@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:10 -!- jc33 is now known as a_village_wolf 13:10 < Tony_Sidaway> I've installed just about every Linux there is, including Ubuntu, Debian SuSE, Red Hat and even Slackware. 13:10 < Tony_Sidaway> Never had a problem. 13:11 -!- a_village_wolf is now known as jc35 13:11 < foks> I don't have a Snow Leopard boot disk or anything... 13:11 < yrtneg> Then get ML boot disk 13:11 < foks> nothing to delete 'em with 13:11 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so it should be Membership/Data/The Bahamas? 13:11 < yrtneg> I have mountain laion 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Template:Membership/Data/Bahamas should be moved to Template:Membership/Data/The Bahamas 13:11 < yrtneg> IT'S F-CKING AMAZING 13:11 < foks> yrtneg, except my computer is old and ML would probably kill it 13:11 < BobTheWikipedian> foks i installed linux, and rebooted, and got "no operating system, insert a disk and strike any key" 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I stupidly created the redirect before checking the article 13:11 < BobTheWikipedian> did it again, same result 13:11 < TBloemink> I did not even know this :o http://www.google.com/doodles/sopa-pipa 13:11 < foks> BobTheWikipedian, it wasn't that bad for me, given I was dualbootin 13:11 < foks> +g 13:11 < Tony_Sidaway> But if you have an Apple computer, you probably don't need Linux. Apples are BSD systems. 13:11 < BobTheWikipedian> did it a third time, matched einstein's definition of insanity 13:11 * foks sucks with computers though. 13:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda as a convention I want to match the article name as much as possible 13:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: yeah, i think that'd make sense ;) 13:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: can you do the move? 13:12 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, I was installing it to see what it was like. 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not an amdin but I can try 13:12 < foks> It was pretty ace when I booted from the CD 13:12 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:12 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah 13:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also I would need a bot account to make the edits? 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh it worked :) 13:12 < yuvipanda> it's only ~200 edits, and I can space them out 13:12 < foks> But obviously a little bit lacking since it was from a CD 13:12 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@37.117.18.94] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:12 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@37.117.18.94] has quit [Changing host] 13:12 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:12 < foks> BUT ENOUGH OF JOE'S FAILURES. 13:12 < Tony_Sidaway> You had your Apple system backed up, of course. 13:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda I have abot account and can run the code but you can space them too 13:12 -!- beakerPDH [~blabby@ti0121a340-dhcp1766.bb.online.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:12 < foks> (That's me. Joe.) 13:12 < BobTheWikipedian> yeah...and i can't say i particularly enjoyed my experience using the cd version either 13:13 < StaritupS> Quien anda acá 13:13 < foks> Tony_Sidaway, yes. 13:13 < yrtneg> ML doesnt need a disk to install. 13:13 < StaritupS> que hable español 13:13 < foks> yrtneg, it does if you want a clean install 13:13 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so can I just run them on my normal account and space them? 13:13 -!- beakerPDH [~blabby@ti0121a340-dhcp1766.bb.online.no] has quit [Client Quit] 13:13 < BobTheWikipedian> too much stuff that should have been done automatically, like mounting a disk before you open it 13:13 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: the last thing I'd want is to get banned :D 13:13 < BobTheWikipedian> like if i double click on a disk, don't tell me i should mount it first, mount it yourself! 13:13 -!- KimiSleep [~Kimihaha@bzq-82-81-32-69.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:14 * foks wants to install ML. 13:14 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I can also share the hackily written script that would do the replacing 13:14 < foks> But I don't have £15 even. XD 13:14 -!- Newyorkbrad [47f9e895@wikipedia/Newyorkbrad] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:14 < BobTheWikipedian> lol 13:14 < foks> well I probably do but money's pretty tight atm 13:14 < StaritupS> Lol 13:14 < yrtneg> Jojo was a man who thought he was a loner 13:14 < BobTheWikipedian> only got two 10's, foks? 13:14 < foks> BobTheWikipedian, :P 13:15 < foks> I need a joooob. 13:15 < BobTheWikipedian> it's hard making 15 even with two 10s 13:15 < BobTheWikipedian> me too :P 13:15 < foks> Rip one in hal. 13:15 < foks> * half. 13:15 < foks> :D 13:15 < Qcoder02> Good evening 13:15 * yuvipanda is happily unemployed 13:15 < Qcoder02> I am about to have a screaming rant 13:15 < BobTheWikipedian> half a 10 isn't 5. it's half a 10. 13:15 * foks is unhappily unemployed. 13:15 < Qcoder02> 700 spams on one group? 13:15 < yrtneg> here's how to make a 15 out of 2 10s 13:15 < yrtneg> rip one in half 13:15 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:15 < Qcoder02> Someone needs to be told how to run things... 13:15 < foks> Stealing my joke?! 13:16 < yrtneg> Oh i didn't see ot 13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> 10 + half a 10 = 10. yet 10 + 2 halves of a 10 = 20. go figure :P 13:16 < yrtneg> lol 13:16 < StaritupS> Hi Foks 13:16 < foks> hi 13:16 < Qcoder02> BobTheWikipedian: There was a scam run in the UK about torn notes 13:16 < Shirik> how is 10 + half a 10 = 10 13:16 < BobTheWikipedian> ripped money only retains its value when its other half is present 13:16 < yrtneg> it's 15 13:17 < foks> Shirik, 'cos banknotes 13:17 < yrtneg> My relative wrote the oldest will in the UK 13:17 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: can you fix the 'Ivory Coast' template too? 13:17 < Shirik> ._. 13:17 < foks> :3 13:17 < BobTheWikipedian> thus handing someone half a 10 is worthless, but handing them both halves is worth 10. 13:17 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: you're using the older name, I guess? 13:17 < yrtneg> white cat 13:17 * yuvipanda hands BobTheWikipedian half a 7 13:17 < yrtneg> 3.5 13:17 < BobTheWikipedian> lol 13:17 < Shirik> half a 7 is 1 13:18 < Shirik> it's just slightly rotated 13:18 < BobTheWikipedian> depends on the half, shirik 13:18 < Qcoder02> Of course ripping US banknotes get you in deep trouble 13:18 < yrtneg> actually there is more | than ¯ 13:18 < Qcoder02> ;) 13:18 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~tony@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:18 -!- Jarry1250_ [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:18 -!- Jarry1250_ [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has quit [Client Quit] 13:19 < BobTheWikipedian> actually wouldn't it be a curvy 7 if it were on a u.s. banknote? 13:19 < yrtneg> no 13:20 < BobTheWikipedian> the kind with the tail on the bottom 13:20 -!- StaritupS is now known as BreakDown 13:20 -!- Jarry1250 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Jarry1250] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:20 < yrtneg> 007 13:20 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also The Gambia 13:21 < BobTheWikipedian> woah. my image in my word document makes it 24 megs...anyone know how to force word to use a gif? 13:21 -!- Keegan__ [~chatzilla@c-71-207-198-224.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21 -!- TBloemink is now known as TB|Away 13:22 < yrtneg> Take a screen shot of it, use Preiew to make it gif 13:22 < BreakDown> Hey 13:22 < yrtneg> hi 13:22 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and Georgia (country) 13:22 < BreakDown> what? 13:22 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@wikimedia/AndrewN] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:23 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and 'Republic of Ireland' 13:23 < yrtneg> Mr winkler is GAY 13:23 -!- LikeLakers2-2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:24 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and 'Republic of Macedonia' 13:24 < Qcoder02> yrteng: Behave 13:24 < yrtneg> It's an uncyc injoke 13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> au-hau-haaaaau 13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> got it 13:25 < BobTheWikipedian> ^that was supposed to be a french laugh 13:26 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: and 'Kingdom of the Netherlands' :) 13:26 < BobTheWikipedian> right-clicked the image in the document, save as picture, selected a gif format, and pasted it in its own place :D 2 megs now 13:26 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: Later!] 13:26 < yuvipanda> i'm making a list seperately 13:26 -!- Lubaf [~chatzilla@c-67-188-188-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:26 -!- LikeLakers2-2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27 -!- LikeLakers2-1 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:27 -!- LikeLakers2-2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:27 < BobTheWikipedian> oh hey that even improved the color on it :o surprisingly 13:27 -!- LikeLakers2-2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has quit [Client Quit] 13:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda we;; 13:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Georgia is "Georgia" 13:28 -!- MarchingFrood is now known as Frood 13:28 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The state cannot be a member of international organizations so I want to keep it as is 13:28 < BobTheWikipedian> georgia georgia or georgia georgia? 13:28 < yrtneg> WTF 13:29 < BobTheWikipedian> there are two georgias 13:29 < yrtneg> oh right 13:29 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:29 < yrtneg> In asia and in the US 13:29 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Georgia_(country) should be what it is, no? 13:29 < Qcoder02> Three actually 13:29 < Qcoder02> There's some bit of UK Rock in the South Atlantic 13:29 < BobTheWikipedian> back in the u.s.s.r.? 13:30 < yrtneg> BTW: YES 13:30 < yrtneg> YES YES YES 13:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda can you list me the names? :) 13:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no it should remain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Georgia IMHO 13:31 < ToAruShiroiNeko> putting the () would be very controversial 13:31 < BobTheWikipedian> soviet, soviet, my home sweet home, just an old sweet song keeps georgia on my mind 13:31 -!- BreakDown [~Admin@181-182-206-1.genericrev.telcel.net.ve] has left #wikipedia-en [] 13:31 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:31 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:32 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I can 13:32 < yrtneg> why, georgia, why 13:32 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: well, in that case I can map it. Not a problem. As long as I can have a list of those things that are different 13:32 < yuvipanda> skip_list = ['Ivory Coast', 'The Gambia', 'Georgia (country)', 'Republic of Ireland', 'Republic of Macedonia', 'Kingdom of the Netherlands', 'São Tomé and Príncipe'] 13:32 < yuvipanda> is what i have so far 13:32 -!- Newyorkbrad [47f9e895@wikipedia/Newyorkbrad] has quit [] 13:32 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: 13:32 < yuvipanda> ^ 13:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have move dthe pages though\ 13:32 < yuvipanda> i'm stuck at Sao Tome with encoding issues 13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> AH! 13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Ivory Coast was moved 13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> FINALLY 13:33 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thanks I was hoping for this for a while 13:33 < BobTheWikipedian> mustard seeds at work 13:34 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: thoughts on São_Tomé_and_Príncipe? 13:34 -!- yrtneg [~crazilon@wikipedia/yrtneg] has left #wikipedia-en [] 13:34 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: it exists without accents 13:34 < yuvipanda> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/Sao_Tome_and_Principe 13:35 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:35 < BobTheWikipedian> use a switch 13:35 -!- Fasttimes68 [~Fasttimes@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:35 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:35 < yuvipanda> BobTheWikipedian: am writing python code :) 13:36 < BobTheWikipedian> oh i never studied that language :P 13:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda I can move it, sure 13:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to update two places :) 13:36 -!- jc35 is now known as Brooklyn 13:37 * SigmaWP eyes yuvipanda suspiciously 13:37 < yuvipanda> SigmaWP: I didn't do it 13:37 < Brooklyn> OmegaWP, you keep eyeing them suspiciously. 13:37 < Brooklyn> *SigmaWP 13:37 < TeeTylerToe> it's all a plot against php. Everyone's in on it 13:38 < TeeTylerToe> the conspiracy is massive 13:38 < yuvipanda> php killed my dog 13:38 < yuvipanda> it also set my alarm to the sound of nails on a chalk board 13:39 < TeeTylerToe> I heard php created dubstep 13:39 < Qcoder02> Where did BarkingFish go? 13:39 < BobTheWikipedian> fire hydrant 13:39 < TeeTylerToe> and where's php... 13:39 < SigmaWP> Munich 13:39 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Membership/Data/United_States_of_America vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States :) 13:40 * Qcoder02 has this odd view of BarkingFish getting p***f in Munich 13:40 < yuvipanda> porn? p*f? I'm confused 13:40 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: GorillaWarfare] 13:41 < SigmaWP> It's extended iterable unpacking 13:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda is there any I missed besides georgia? 13:42 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: United States vs United States of America 13:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you have already done me a great service for finding these 13:42 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: Vietnam vs Viet Nam 13:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes done it already :) 13:42 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:42 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:42 < Peter-C> Injuries Resulting From Car Surfing—United States, 1990-2008 13:42 < Peter-C> lulwtf 13:42 < yuvipanda> awesome. Checking again 13:42 < BobTheWikipedian> yuvi sometimes india and indiana get confused 13:43 < ToAruShiroiNeko> done Vietnam too 13:43 < Qcoder02> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185494/Olympics-2012-Parkinsons-sufferer-Mark-Worsfold-54-arrested-police-smiling-cycling-road-race.html - Huh? 13:44 < Qcoder02> Anyne not smiling is suspect? 13:44 < yuvipanda> awesome, looks clean! 13:44 < SigmaWP> Dai Nam! 13:44 -!- M132T003C_ [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 13:44 < Qcoder02> Since when did the UK Government make netural faces illegal? 13:44 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: verifying again. The only mapping I'm doing is for Georgia 13:45 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: verified :) 13:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright 13:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont think I agree with the decision to move georgia to its new name 13:46 < yuvipanda> ? 13:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> of the wikipedia article itself 13:46 < yuvipanda> aaah 13:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it will probably be moved later 13:46 -!- TB|Away is now known as TBloemink 13:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I will redirect though 13:46 < yuvipanda> ah, well - I like watching these debates from a distance :D 13:46 -!- haggis_ [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 -!- KimiSleep [~Kimihaha@bzq-82-81-32-69.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> me too 13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> though I find my self burried in them form time to time 13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to avoid ()'s in template names I mean 13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it is back end stuff 13:47 < ToAruShiroiNeko> who cares :p 13:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can edit Template:Membership/Data/Georgia (country) with your code and I would manually migrate the info 13:48 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: nah, I'm ediging /Georgia 13:48 -!- haggis [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:48 < yuvipanda> it was very simple for me to put a mapping for these things 13:48 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright :) thats even better :D 13:48 -!- haggis_ is now known as haggis 13:49 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> once done with UN, WTO etc I hope to ask you to help with UN security council 13:49 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49 < ToAruShiroiNeko> relationship there is annoying to say the least 13:49 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 13:50 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:50 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization_accession_and_membership#List_of_members_and_accession_dates is not linkified :( 13:50 < Peter-C> Does this read like an essay or is it just me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_pressure_drop_across_major_arteries_to_capillaries 13:51 < SigmaWP> Peter-C: Just fix it 13:51 < Brooklyn> the title sucks 13:51 < Peter-C> Fixing it = deleting it 13:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda nope 13:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is exactly why I am working on this template 13:51 < ToAruShiroiNeko> to establish the article on such articles 13:52 < yuvipanda> okay, let me do that for that now 13:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> please work on the task thats easier first :p 13:52 < SigmaWP> Whatever happened to Ottava 13:52 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: so, what I'm thinking is - I'll get the script done up, and then pass it to you so you can run it under your bot account 13:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda sure 13:52 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can run python code 13:52 < Brooklyn> they used to post on WR 13:53 < Brooklyn> but 13:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> people go to WR? 13:53 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:53 -!- linxon634_ [~linxon634@85.26.235.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:53 < Brooklyn> yes 13:53 < ToAruShiroiNeko> WR is sooo... 2006s 13:53 < Brooklyn> but Wikipediocracy is new 13:53 < Brooklyn> and better 13:54 < Brooklyn> imo 13:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like either] 13:54 < Brooklyn> but their topics on Fae are...shit 13:54 < Brooklyn> SigmaWP: https://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=Ottava+Rima&blocks=true 13:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like people making a big deal of crap 13:54 < Brooklyn> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline#Thanks_for_Comments_and_Deference_to_Community 13:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure I was blocked back in 2006, big deal... move on 13:54 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:55 < SigmaWP> Interesting 13:55 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:55 -!- Avruch [~Me@wikimedia/Nathan] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda NATO has many relationships as you can see 13:56 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: don't tell me, the trolls have a new website to post their whinges on? 13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway no clue 13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda demembership is also an important parameter for NATO relaitonships 13:56 < ToAruShiroiNeko> countries cease being PfP nations when they become full members 13:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway I dont know if anyone talks or cares about me on such sites 13:57 < BobTheWikipedian> i'd never seen whine spelt with a G until this month 13:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian went to a primary school? 13:58 < BobTheWikipedian> nope, elementary. 13:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah elementary my dear BobTheWikipedian 13:58 < BobTheWikipedian> the american version 13:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Boom! 13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> AMERICA! AMERICA! 13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! 13:59 < BobTheWikipedian> our new anthem 13:59 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Quit: slaporte] 13:59 -!- guillom is now known as basile 13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BobTheWikipedian sucks to be that guy named america 13:59 < BobTheWikipedian> amerigo? 13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 13:59 < Tony_Sidaway> Whinge (rhymes with minge) is a common British word that means roughly the same as whine. 13:59 < ToAruShiroiNeko> if he gets a ping in afterlife he is never sleeping 14:00 < ToAruShiroiNeko> that could also be what hell is 14:00 < BobTheWikipedian> haven't seen that word, minge...does that rhyme with cringe, like i cringe when i see whinge? 14:00 * ToAruShiroiNeko catapults BobTheWikipedian sky high 14:01 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@5e03c3cc.bb.sky.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:01 * BobTheWikipedian tries to grab a branch 14:01 * BobTheWikipedian misses 14:01 < Tony_Sidaway> Minge is a British word for vagina. 14:01 * BobTheWikipedian catches it on the way down 14:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> British have a word for Vagina? O_O 14:01 < BobTheWikipedian> oh, lovely 14:01 -!- Keegan__ [~chatzilla@c-71-207-198-224.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:01 < Bruvtakesover> yes 14:01 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: should be easy enough, actually 14:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> perhaps 14:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its a pain for a human to read 14:02 < Tony_Sidaway> We have lots and lots of word for vagina. Don't mistake us for our prudish colonial colleagues. 14:02 -!- Qcoder02 is now known as Qcoder00 14:03 -!- Qcoder00 is now known as Guest86466 14:03 < Tony_Sidaway> Though my favourite is Australian: map of Tasmania. 14:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda United Arab Republic does not exist anymore mind you :) 14:03 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> what about tasmania? 14:04 < ToAruShiroiNeko> they have tasmanian devils in there 14:04 -!- WilliamH_UK [WilliamH@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:05 < BobTheWikipedian> taz of tasmania 14:05 < pakaran> Tony_Sidaway, i suppose you want us to assume that's for the same reason eskimos have hundreds of words for snow, and Americans have hundreds of words for money/investments? 14:05 -!- Mitchazenia [~richardpe@ool-45786a94.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:05 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 14:05 -!- Guest86466 is now known as Qcoder02 14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran but does UK have as much vagina as snowflakes? 14:05 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: 157 countries in WTO list 14:05 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yup 14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not every country is a wto member 14:05 < pakaran> shit 14:05 < pakaran> :( 14:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you can datamine their actual website if you like 14:06 < pakaran> i forgot that eskimo is seen as a racist term 14:06 -!- Matthew_ is now known as MRB[away] 14:06 < pakaran> it wasn't when i was a child, and i hope nobody was offended 14:06 < BobTheWikipedian> i would think so 14:06 < BobTheWikipedian> inuit might be safer 14:06 < pakaran> nod 14:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran when you were a child people didnt have lasers so its fine 14:06 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: now to see how many of them have wrongly spelt template names 14:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda heh 14:06 < BobTheWikipedian> it's like calling native americans "indians" 14:06 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda there are lots of WTO candidates 14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> actually yuvipanda if you like 14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I would prefer you datamine their website 14:07 < pakaran> though apparently there's a few groups that aren't actually inuit and are offended for the same reason Scottish people don't like being called Irish, or Canadians American 14:07 < BobTheWikipedian> call them what they really are, not the name given to them by outsiders 14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> since I care about their premembership 14:07 < pakaran> BobTheWikipedian, though, confusingly, a few tribes in my area have "x nation of Indians", etc, in their official name 14:07 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: sure, first run on this :) 14:07 < yuvipanda> so far only 'European Union' doesn't have a template :) 14:07 < yuvipanda> not sure if it should 14:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah 14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it will but EU is a painful thing to handle 14:08 < yuvipanda> Hong Kong doesn't 14:08 < yuvipanda> Macau doesn't 14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> prioe to 1993 it is especiallly complicated 14:08 < pakaran> there's people who identify as Indian, and try to take back the term, in the same way as "Queer" 14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> most ex nations dont because no one had the time to create them 14:08 < yuvipanda> Republic of Moldova 14:08 -!- Dusti [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/dusti] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> moldova should be there 14:08 < yuvipanda> Chinese Taipei 14:08 < yuvipanda> and that's it from current list 14:08 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Chinese Taipei is Taiwan and is there 14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova 14:09 < Pharos> hi wikipedians 14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its moldova on the original 14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> as in article 14:09 < Pharos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_America#Event_page_wizard 14:09 < pakaran> what do people from Taiwan call their nation in English? 14:09 < pakaran> I should know this. 14:09 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization_accession_and_membership#List_of_members_and_accession_dates calls it 'Republic of Moldova' 14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Membership/Data/Moldova 14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am not disputing it 14:09 < yuvipanda> change the list on article perhaps? 14:09 < pakaran> I know that products are typically made in "Taiwan" (thus avoiding the question of who rules/should rule that land) 14:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure 14:09 < BobTheWikipedian> hello pharos 14:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but bear in mind sometimes countries are recorded with thjat exact name 14:10 < pakaran> there's a lot of weird issues 14:10 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: true, but I think we've so far managed to have exact names between their wiki articles and Template names 14:10 < yuvipanda> except for georgia 14:10 < pakaran> like, Vatican City and the Holy See are actually separate entities 14:10 < yuvipanda> and I'll dutifuly note any other exceptions in my script 14:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> sure 14:10 -!- MRB[away] is now known as Matthew_ 14:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats a good thing 14:11 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: the other ones? Macau, Hong Kong? 14:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am merely trying to explain 14:11 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has quit [Quit: While there's life, there's hope.] 14:11 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 < yuvipanda> and Chinese Taipei - do you want to rename that to Taiwan in the article also? :D 14:11 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:11 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I understand :) 14:11 < pakaran> The article on the *nation* is at Republic of China, no? 14:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Hong Kong is a dependant of Peoples Republic of China 14:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but Hong Kong is registered seperately to WTO 14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> like how Republic of China (Taiwan)/Chinese Taipei is 14:12 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, yeah, but it has a level of political independence significantly higher than, say, Puerto Rico or Greenland. 14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran indeed 14:12 < Pharos> Republic of China is more a *state* than a nation 14:12 < pakaran> And I'm trying, and failing, to think of a non-PRC case where that's true of an entity big enough to be a nation. 14:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: it's 02:40 here, and I've classes at 8AM. So I'll be off now. 14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> but we have created templates only for independent countries 14:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda we can continue later, thats fine 14:12 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I'll mine their site tomorrow instead, and do a 'dry run' of template modifications 14:13 < pakaran> The component entities of the UK can't pass legislation that overrides the UK parliament except to the extent that Parliament has agreed not to interfere with them doing. 14:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda I want to know candiacy and also full membership from WTO 14:13 < pakaran> (sorry, that sentence should be taken out and shot, but I think it's technically true) 14:13 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:13 < BobTheWikipedian> it has been shotten 14:13 < BobTheWikipedian> and shotted 14:14 < pakaran> ... 14:14 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: where can I get that? 14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh 14:14 < yuvipanda> you mean candidacy vs full membership? 14:14 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: also, NATO is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO? 14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> WTO's site 14:14 < pakaran> I remember I've always meant to fix instances of "hung" as the past tense of capital punishment. 14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> one second 14:14 < Steven_Zhang> ohai 14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda yes and more 14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats just members 14:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> there are pfp nations and etc 14:14 < pakaran> and there's a lot of them in wikipedia; they're also harder to google for than, say, "all intensive purposes" 14:15 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/org6_e.htm? 14:15 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@wikipedia/Bob-the-Wikipedian] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@wikipedia/Bob-the-Wikipedian] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/acc_e/a1_afghanistan_e.htm 14:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda thats one country for youi 14:16 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, is part of the problem that Americans don't know the distinction between "state" and "nation", and in extreme cases think that "state" generally means an entity like Ontario, Florida, or New South Wales? 14:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> not a member yet 14:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Afghanistan is just a candidate 14:17 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: right, I see them under 'Observers' 14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran to me when someone tells "state" or "naiton" I think of independent political entity first 14:17 < pakaran> me too, but I've also been online (and often awake at funny times) for a very long time. 14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yuvipanda mind that countries are only allowed to be an observer for 5 or 10 years (one of the other) 14:17 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> its complicated 14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> dont worry about exceptions too much 14:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> the bulk of the work can be automated 14:18 < yuvipanda> indeed. I should read up on WTO as such tomorrow 14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we can deal with exceptioons as they come up 14:18 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, what about non UN recognized entities like Somaliland? 14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright 14:18 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: I now need to crash. 14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ok see you 14:18 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran non-recognised state 14:18 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: Poke at my talk page :) 14:18 < BobTheWikipedian> wow, http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/science-mystery-hendra-virus-062305798.html it would be a little disconcerting to live in a suburb after which a virus was named... 14:19 < pakaran> ah, sorry for the many questions 14:19 < yuvipanda> ToAruShiroiNeko: http://hastebin.com/hakopoqubo.py is the code in case you want to poke around :) 14:19 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:19 < pakaran> just find this interesting. 14:19 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:19 < pakaran> and i need to go now if i'm going to eat before karate 14:19 < yuvipanda> gnite :) 14:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran kicks people 14:19 < pakaran> i'll be on around 9 eastern... if i can help with this project, let me know 14:19 < ToAruShiroiNeko> alright 14:20 -!- yuvipanda [~yuvipanda@mediawiki/Yuvipandan] has quit [Quit: sleep at home + sleep at college] 14:20 < pakaran> ToAruShiroiNeko, actually, I don't believe I'm an op anywhere. 14:20 < TeeTylerToe> do you mean pastebin? 14:20 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no, I meant IRL 14:20 < pakaran> heh 14:20 < BobTheWikipedian> ireland 14:20 < pakaran> when we spar (which I won't for 2 more color levels), it's point sparring 14:20 -!- eryksun [~eryksun@adsl-74-179-96-49.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:20 < pakaran> if someone gets hurt, you're doing it wrong (and you don't go for targets like knees and throat at all) 14:20 < Isarra> Did wikipedia's logo really use to have a klingon character on it? 14:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pakaran sure 14:21 < BobTheWikipedian> you must not be talking about water polo 14:21 < BobTheWikipedian> yes isarra 14:21 < pakaran> Isarra, it's on one of the 3 pieces of the wikiglobe that 4chan stole 5 years ago. 14:21 * pakaran ducks. 14:21 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I meant kicking people sparta style 14:21 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 14:21 < Isarra> Why was that changed? 14:21 < BobTheWikipedian> to better represent more people 14:21 < Peter-C> OMG http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/09/exclusive-area-woman-reads-newspaper/ 14:22 < Isarra> Wannabe klingons are people too! 14:22 < BobTheWikipedian> the klingon language doesn't do much in that respect 14:22 < Isarra> Pfft. 14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont like the current puzzle logo 14:22 < Isarra> Must everything be so serious? 14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> it leaves out too many languages 14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> needs to have more puzzles 14:22 < BobTheWikipedian> neko [[WP:SOFIXIT]] 14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no way 14:22 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I lost my puzzles 14:22 < Isarra> You want a fractal logo. 14:22 < BobTheWikipedian> oh come on [[WP:BEBOLD]] 14:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have been bold for ages 14:23 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I ceased that a while ago 14:23 < BobTheWikipedian> isarra...it must be serious. and boring. how else do you propose we appeal to readers of peer-reviewed journals? 14:24 < Isarra> By kidnapping their loved ones? 14:24 < BobTheWikipedian> the only thing peer-reviewed journals have that we don't is a conflict of interest 14:24 < Isarra> And fewer loved ones. 14:24 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:24 < Isarra> So they're easier to kidnap. 14:25 < BobTheWikipedian> wait, having fewer loved ones makes loved ones easier to kidnap? 14:25 < Isarra> There are less people involved, so less loved ones to choose from and kidnap. 14:25 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:25 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:25 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:25 * BobTheWikipedian should have gone into philosophy 14:26 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:26 * BobTheWikipedian detects the aftertaste of chinese mustard 14:27 -!- eryksun [~eryksun@adsl-74-179-96-49.gnv.bellsouth.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:27 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Client Quit] 14:27 < Peter-C> I want Google Glasses 14:27 < Peter-C> Like... right now 14:28 < BobTheWikipedian> they are still in alpha development 14:28 < jorm> so, the curation toolbar is live. 14:28 < James_F|Busy> jorm: Yay 14:28 < Isarra> It wasn't before? 14:29 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|away 14:30 < Frood> jorm: I told [[Aza Raskin]] about your response to that site, he said "the answer sounds defensive. There's a lot to be learned from both the experience of Wikipedia as well the new thoughts " 14:30 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - SO 14:30 < Peter-C> I WANT IT NAOW 14:30 < Peter-C> It will be a babe magnet 14:30 < BobTheWikipedian> chinese mustard? 14:30 < Peter-C> And I could watch porn and people wouldn’t know 14:31 < BobTheWikipedian> i'm pretty sure chinese mustard will not be a chick magnet 14:31 < Peter-C> Apparently by the time they come out my phone contract will expire. SCORE! 14:31 < Frood> (That's how I found out about it, I don't regularly speak to him) 14:31 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:32 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway I do have a tr.wikipedia sysop that is taking the time to bother me on a wiki he has no edits on besides his oppose vote 14:33 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@5e03c3cc.bb.sky.com] has quit [Changing host] 14:33 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:33 < jorm> Frood: of course it sounds defensive. that's mostly because i'm irritated about talking about it. 14:34 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:35 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:35 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: you do seem to have a talent for attracting nutters. I sympathize. I share the same talent to a great extent. 14:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway well at least this folk is upset because of an RfC I filed against him 14:35 < ToAruShiroiNeko> well him -> most tr.wiki sysops 14:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yeah, I know I wont be popular on tr.wikipedia for the rest of my life 14:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd rather do the right thing than be in my "safe" 14:36 < BobTheWikipedian> peter what happens when you go into R.E.M. while wearing google glasses 14:36 < BobTheWikipedian> ? 14:36 < Steven_Zhang> http://xkcd.com/547/ 14:36 < Steven_Zhang> lol 14:36 < Steven_Zhang> Peter-C: <3 14:37 < Brooklyn> lol 14:37 < Brooklyn> I've seen that one before 14:37 < BobTheWikipedian> lol 14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> peter-c read my question :D 14:38 < Peter-C> BobTheWikipedian - Seizures 14:38 < Peter-C> idk 14:38 < Pharos> Brooklyn! 14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> that's not good 14:38 < Brooklyn> :D 14:38 < Pharos> who the heck is that? 14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> i go into r.e.m. a LOT and sure wouldn't want seizures for wearing google glasses 14:38 < BobTheWikipedian> i'll opt out 14:39 < Steven_Zhang> http://xkcd.com/906/ 14:39 < Pharos> I am, are you really from the County of Kings? 14:39 < BobTheWikipedian> lol steven 14:39 < Steven_Zhang> lol 14:40 -!- Lubaf [~chatzilla@c-67-188-188-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 14:41 < Steven_Zhang> jorm: so true 14:41 < Steven_Zhang> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fabola/7571380662/in/set-72157630578652390/ 14:42 -!- Thoreau [~R@sm1-84-91-37-56.netvisao.pt] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:42 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:43 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:43 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has left #wikipedia-en [] 14:44 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:44 < BobTheWikipedian> oo another game on google 14:44 < Brooklyn> http://www.google.com.tw/ < tomorrow's (for the US) 14:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/556/ 14:46 < Qcoder02> Hmm 14:47 < Qcoder02> Just had someone weird out on me 14:47 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@216.38.130.166] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:47 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@216.38.130.166] has quit [Changing host] 14:47 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:47 < Qcoder02> Because I'm on a different handle now they think I'm an imposter :) 14:47 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:47 < Qcoder02> despite my attempts to convince them otherwise 14:49 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:50 < [ceradon]> "Baractually, A load of Mitt." -- I love that. 14:50 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-21-16.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:50 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-22-228.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51 < Steven_Zhang> James_F|Away: poke 14:51 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:51 < TeeTylerToe> I'm not sure the batshit crazy are the tiny minority that comic implies 14:52 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:53 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@149-169-204-136.nat.asu.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:53 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@149-169-204-136.nat.asu.edu] has quit [Changing host] 14:53 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:53 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-52-90.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:53 * Steven_Zhang prods Maryana 14:53 < Maryana> ack! 14:53 * Maryana removes prod template! 14:54 * Peter-C afd’s Maryana 14:54 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Client Quit] 14:54 * Maryana argues convincingly for keep :) 14:54 * ToAruShiroiNeko prods everyone with a katana 14:54 < Steven_Zhang> ow 14:54 < TeeTylerToe> For instance, Mitt Romney's basic campaign strategy of "Lies!" is a slight variation on oolong kalophid's "don't vote for stupid" strategy 14:54 < Peter-C> You penis. 14:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to see Mitt Romney face of against obama on TV 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> when will that happen? 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh right he hasnt even picked a vice president 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no one wants to be that vice president 14:55 < TeeTylerToe> why would that change anything? 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I watched the Kerry v Bush tv showdown 14:55 < ToAruShiroiNeko> "He did not have the intelligence" 14:56 < TeeTylerToe> People that want to believe that obama said that small business owners weren't the driving force behind their own success will believe it no matter if aliens come down and probe them with the least user friendly of alien probes 14:56 < ToBeFree> "<TeeTylerToe> For instance, Mitt Romney's basic campaign strategy of "Lies!" is a slight variation on oolong kalophid's "don't vote for stupid" strategy" - LOL 14:56 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-21-16.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:56 -!- Saw [~chatzilla@181.52.148.30] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:56 < Saw> Hello 14:56 < ToBeFree> hi 14:57 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-53-101.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:57 < Saw> Twinkle? 14:57 < Frood> Twinkle. 14:58 -!- Saw is now known as Cyrax 14:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TeeTylerToe obama did say that if you cut of rest of his speech 14:58 < ToAruShiroiNeko> TDS has covered this 14:58 -!- benzband [5c854c87@wikipedia/benzband] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:59 < Cyrax> I speak spanish 14:59 < TeeTylerToe> Yes, but the people that want to believe what the Romney ads are saying won't change their minds if they see the context 14:59 < TeeTylerToe> For instance, a pennsylvania republican who thinks that democrats steal elections through voter fraud won't listen if you tell them that there has never been a recorded case of voter fraud in pennsylvania 15:00 < Cyrax> warnings of vandalism? 15:00 -!- shimgray [~andrew@wikimedia/Shimgray] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00 -!- tonynoname3 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-52-90.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:00 < Cyrax> hello? 15:01 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/556/ -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYIF6fgQgTk 15:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yes 15:02 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:02 < benzband> talking of republicans: http://www.dailypaul.com/248082/can-someone-fix-the-wiki-on-2012-convention-ron-paul-missing-wa-la-and-nv 15:02 -!- tonynoname2 [~tonynonam@pool-96-236-53-101.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:02 -!- Bruvtakesover is now known as Kiewii 15:03 < Cyrax> ToAruShiroiNeko, warnings or notice of vandalism? 15:04 -!- Fasttimes68 [~Fasttimes@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:04 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has quit [Quit: I'll remember this.] 15:04 -!- rschen7754 [~rschen775@wikipedia/rschen7754] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:04 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:06 < Tony_Sidaway> Veep selections aren't normally announced before party conference. Romney made an unforced error e 15:07 < Tony_Sidaway> When he said he would announce his running 15:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Cyrax huh? 15:07 < Tony_Sidaway> Mate before conference 15:07 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway hmm good advice 15:08 -!- Cyrax [~chatzilla@181.52.148.30] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 15:08 < Tony_Sidaway> My advice to Romney now would be "don't rely on the economy to rescue your campaign" 15:09 -!- Tony_Sidaway_ [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway do not advise romney please 15:09 -!- Fasttimes68 [~Fasttimes@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:09 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am happy that he is a physical manifestation of cartoon rich 15:10 < Tony_Sidaway_> Why hasn't he dealt decisively with the tax nonsense? Just release a few years of records and get it over with. 15:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no way 15:10 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I know for a fact that he is a dishonest person 15:10 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:11 < Fasttimes68> I had the day off 15:11 < Fasttimes68> here is what I did 15:11 < Fasttimes68> http://screencast.com/t/oUaonsXB 15:11 < Tony_Sidaway_> He was the least awful candidate, and that's not saying much. 15:11 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11 -!- Flatworm [4e90c4da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.144.196.218] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:12 < benzband> i would suggest updating his wiki article with all these interesting facts 15:12 -!- Flatworm [4e90c4da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.144.196.218] has quit [Client Quit] 15:12 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I'd prefer to see the 555 guy in office 15:12 < BarkingFish> Fasttimes68, you jammy git :) I've never had the cojones to go over 100 before :P 15:12 -!- Keegan__ [~chatzilla@c-71-207-198-224.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12 < Tony_Sidaway_> Obviously I wish they'd chosen Gingrich or even that religious nut. 15:12 < Fasttimes68> thats MPH, not K/m 15:12 < Fasttimes68> :D 15:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gingrich is fine 15:13 < Fasttimes68> of course it was in a race car 15:13 < BarkingFish> yeah, that's what i mean, ft 15:13 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:13 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Gingrich just needs ron paul as running mate 15:13 < Fasttimes68> a pro driver took me on 3 laps 15:13 < Fasttimes68> hit 160 15:13 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-8-195.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 160 KPH isnt impressive 15:14 < Fasttimes68> MPH 15:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> still not impressive 15:14 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 15:14 < Fasttimes68> whatever 15:14 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 160 KPS <3 15:14 < Fasttimes68> people were puking afterwards 15:15 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 160*60*60 = 576000 15:15 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:15 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has quit [Changing host] 15:15 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> or 576m/s 15:16 < Tony_Sidaway_> I've been reading Iain M Banks. Anything below 10,000 lights is not worth bothering with. 15:16 -!- ragesoss [~sage@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no 15:16 < Tony_Sidaway_> Give me a nice big Torturer class ROU. 15:16 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> you cant go faster than light 15:17 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BUT space itself can 15:17 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:18 < ChrisGualtieri> Is someone from bot request on? 15:19 < Fluffernutter> o_O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:XsHoa10pSogRcAVgjAxsVMs1C1BbYUspRh 15:19 < benzband> haha 15:19 -!- Sven_Manguard [~Perhaps@wikipedia/Sven-Manguard] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:20 < benzband> ChrisGualtieri, do you mean from [[WP:BAG]] ? !link 15:20 < ChrisGualtieri> benzband: I guess 15:20 < benzband> ChrisGualtieri: they have their own channel at #wikipedia-bag 15:20 < ChrisGualtieri> benzband: Coolies 15:21 < benzband> ChrisGualtieri: what has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolies got to do with it? *puzzled* 15:22 < ChrisGualtieri> <.< I'm saying that's cool and I'll check it out 15:22 < Tony_Sidaway_> ToAruShiroiNeko: what? You'll be trying to tell me next that spaceships can't talk! 15:22 < benzband> oh, that's cool then :P 15:22 < benzband> ><(((*> 15:23 -!- Fluffernutter [Fluffernut@wikipedia/Fluffernutter] has quit [Quit: hometime] 15:25 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@89.187.79.193] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:25 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@89.187.79.193] has quit [Changing host] 15:25 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:26 -!- bjelleklang [~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway_ spaceships can talk 15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> test to speech is very possible 15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *text 15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> have I not linked you to this? 15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8GmRjWGV4 15:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> computers can EVEN sing now 15:27 < ToAruShiroiNeko> admitively I cannot image the computer of Enterprise singing 15:27 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@216.38.130.166] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:27 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@216.38.130.166] has quit [Changing host] 15:27 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:28 -!- Dcoetzee|2 [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:28 < ChrisGualtieri> Miku! 15:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thats Hatsune-sama to you 15:29 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :P 15:29 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29 < ChrisGualtieri> >.> I've known Miku for years 15:30 < ChrisGualtieri> We are on a first-name basis 15:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> oh? 15:30 -!- Dcoetzee [kvirc@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30 < ToAruShiroiNeko> My apologies 15:30 < ChrisGualtieri> Hehe :) 15:30 -!- James_F|Away [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:30 -!- James_F|Busy [~Jdforrest@wikimedia/JamesF] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31 < benzband> ToAruShiroiNeko this is starting to sound like something from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation 15:31 < BobTheWikipedian> there is a singing computer on the article [[Sakura, Sakura]] 15:31 < BobTheWikipedian> without the comma 15:31 < benzband> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Cybernetics_Corporation 15:32 < BobTheWikipedian> that too :D 15:32 -!- nickanc [~Nickanc@wikimedia/Nickanc] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 15:32 < BobTheWikipedian> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakura_Sakura 15:32 -!- linxon634 [~linxon634@83.149.21.203] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:32 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:34 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 -!- Sp33dyphil [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Sp33dyphil] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:36 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Bendersgame technology allows singing computers as of 2010 15:36 * SigmaWP hugs jorm 15:36 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I cannot predict what 2020 will bring 15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> despite being in 2012 15:37 * benzband meditates for a couple of seconds 15:37 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I can see this tech be incorporated iunto various discos and whatnot 15:38 < ToAruShiroiNeko> 3d hologram tech needs work though 15:38 * BobTheWikipedian hugs neko fro saying whatnot 15:38 < benzband> 2020 will bring yet a new iPhone, the rise of all oceans, the end of capitalism and some cheese with crackers 15:38 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:39 < BobTheWikipedian> and free music 15:39 < BobTheWikipedian> public domain advances to 1924 in 2020 15:39 < BobTheWikipedian> :D woot 15:39 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:39 < ToAruShiroiNeko> apple will have a market crash by 2017 15:40 < BobTheWikipedian> and in 2021, public domain will be 1925 :D 15:40 < BobTheWikipedian> just think of the possibilities! 15:40 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Steven_Zhang] 15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> pd is life+70 15:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ??? 15:40 -!- Kiewii [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120201153158]] 15:40 < BobTheWikipedian> 20s music will become popular again in the 2020s 15:40 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@wikimedia/AndrewN] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40 -!- Kiewii [~kiewii@5e03c3cc.bb.sky.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:41 < SigmaWP> BobTheWikipedian: So many coal ball sources will be available for copy/pasting in 2021 15:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. 15:41 < BobTheWikipedian> neko - unless it's published 15:41 -!- Kiewii [~kiewii@5e03c3cc.bb.sky.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:41 -!- Kiewii [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:41 < BobTheWikipedian> if it's published, and renewed (as most music was), it's 95 years 15:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> ah 15:42 -!- linxon634 [~linxon634@83.149.21.203] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 < BobTheWikipedian> very little music published after 1923 is public domain today 15:42 * BobTheWikipedian goes to petsmart. see ya! 15:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Including happy birthday 15:42 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@wikipedia/Bob-the-Wikipedian] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [SeaMonkey 2.11/20120715041107]] 15:43 < benzband> hey guys, cheer up, i shall license my garage recordings for you to listen freely ;) 15:44 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:45 < Tony_Sidaway_> The Mouse will see to it that nothing in copyright is ever public domain again. 15:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> no proof that yoour garage recording is in the background of some licensed music 15:45 < Tony_Sidaway_> I've seen this happen before. 15:45 < ToAruShiroiNeko> *isnt in 15:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway_ not really 15:46 < ToAruShiroiNeko> The mouse will be unwanted in the realm of vocal android revolution 15:48 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@wikipedia/Juxo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:49 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:51 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:51 < jorm> SigmaWP: What was that for? 15:51 < SigmaWP> Curation toolbar is awesome 15:52 < jorm> thanks! 15:52 < jorm> glad you like it. 15:52 * Ironholds coughs gentl 15:52 < Ironholds> y 15:53 -!- kaen [~master@unaffiliated/hail] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:54 < benzband> where can i get hold of curation toolbar?? 15:54 < Brooklyn> curation toolbar? 15:55 < Ironholds> benzband: [[Special:NewPagesFeed]] 15:55 < Ironholds> open up a page and watch the magic happen 15:55 -!- kaen [~master@unaffiliated/hail] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:55 * benzband benzband goes to check it out 15:56 -!- Tony_Sidaway_ [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Quit: Reality intrudes] 15:58 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:59 < benzband> <SigmaWP> Curation toolbar is awesome <-- +1 16:00 -!- Brooklyn [~jc33@unaffiliated/jc33] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 16:00 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: Eek! Yoshi! *flees*] 16:01 -!- Flatworm [4e90c4da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.144.196.218] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/557/ 16:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> this is so me! 16:04 < benzband> http://xkcd.com/430/ 16:05 < benzband> ToAruShiroiNeko: that kind of dream is a sympton of brain worms 16:05 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 < benzband> i'd watch out if i were you http://xkcd.com/719/ 16:05 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 16:05 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:05 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 16:06 < BarkingFish> Bendersgame, after the video I watched about 6 hours ago, I'd appreciate you kindly avoiding the topic of brain worms. It kinda freaked me out. A lot. 16:06 < BarkingFish> sorry - tab fail 16:06 < BarkingFish> ^^ benzband 16:06 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:07 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Client Quit] 16:07 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:08 < benzband> ^^ 16:08 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Client Quit] 16:08 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:08 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has quit [Changing host] 16:08 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:09 < BarkingFish> NSFL coming up 16:09 < BarkingFish> It was a video I found on youtube, referred from reddit -an 11 month old boy with a parasitic roundworm infection, that had basically left him in a coma with severe brain damage. 16:10 < BarkingFish> The worms had found their way into the core of his brain, and basically nommed down on it 16:10 < ChrisGualtieri> This is why I hate speedy people 16:10 < ChrisGualtieri> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saifullah_Maan&action=history 16:10 < ChrisGualtieri> Within one minute of creation it was PRODed 16:10 -!- Fluff|sleep is now known as Fluffernutter 16:11 < IRWolfie-> ChrisGualtieri: the article doesn't have a chance in hell 16:11 < Dcoetzee|2> IRWolfie-: They didn't even have time to finish writing it though :-P 16:11 < IRWolfie-> It's a guy making an article about himself 16:11 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:11 -!- fabriceflorin [~fabricefl@216.38.130.166] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:11 < Dcoetzee|2> Like, they might have had refs they planned to add a few minutes later. 16:11 < gadfium> !steward 16:11 < IRWolfie-> It also contains pretty terrible claims: " he many times accept that the Osama bin Ladin is the hero of this er" 16:11 < IRWolfie-> *era 16:11 < BarkingFish> doesn't matter. first inspection indicates an article about a real person with no sources. 16:12 < foks> gadfium, #wikimedia-stewards is a better bet 16:12 < gadfium> Thanks 16:12 < BarkingFish> if they add sources, they can take the blpprod off 16:12 < BarkingFish> nothing prevents prod removal. it's precautionary 16:12 < ChrisGualtieri> Within one minute though? 16:12 < Dcoetzee|2> I guess, but I still disagree fundamentally with the "all BLPs must have sources" rule. 16:12 -!- Dcoetzee|2 is now known as Dcoetzee 16:12 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:12 < haggis> Dcoetzee: abuse 16:12 < IRWolfie-> Dcoetzee: so easy to abuse it 16:13 < BarkingFish> Dcoetzee, I don't. I think it's spot on. 16:13 < IRWolfie-> Ironholds did a presentation on it 16:13 < BarkingFish> If you're writing about a real person, prove what you say is true, or take a hike :) 16:13 < IRWolfie-> it is so easily abused 16:13 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:13 < IRWolfie-> and is abused, a lot 16:13 < Dcoetzee> I think BLP's knee jerk reactionism breaks the ability of a new article to develop through collaboration. 16:13 < IRWolfie-> Dcoetzee: in this particular case, nothing can develop 16:13 < Dcoetzee> It's very anti wiki. 16:14 < Dcoetzee> Well in this particular case yes :-P 16:14 < ChrisGualtieri> The article might not have a chance, but the process is the problem 16:14 < IRWolfie-> A better idea might be to have a process to put it on the users user page or something 16:14 < benzband> BarkingFish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicrocoelium_dendriticum freaking awful 16:14 < IRWolfie-> let them keep their little bit about themselves while they settle in 16:14 < ChrisGualtieri> It seems to be a COI matter, but no one addresses the matter 16:14 < Dcoetzee> The general point is, we're expecting every author of a new article to conform to a strict set of rules in biographies, even newbies lacking the experience and technical skills to do so. 16:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Its all impersonal notices on the users page 16:15 < IRWolfie-> Is the glorification of Osama Bin Laden legal in the US? 16:15 < Dcoetzee> And the article isn't around long enough for anyone else who cares about the subject to notice and pitch in. 16:15 < ChrisGualtieri> Dcoetzee... I'm contesting the grounds on a 1 minute BLP prod or speedy, but the fact that its a COI and no one has reached out to the user is a fundamental problem with keeping newbies 16:16 < ChrisGualtieri> This is written just like a Facebook bio 16:16 < BarkingFish> benzband, this is what that child had: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascaris_lumbricoides 16:16 < IRWolfie-> ChrisGualtieri: I agree on that point: personal communication skills are needed when you speedy 16:16 < benzband> BarkingFish: omg "One quarter of the human population is estimated to be infected by this parasite.[1]" 16:16 < Dcoetzee> I'll agree about that too. Although this would have been averted if all new articles for steered through AfC or a similar process. 16:17 < Dcoetzee> Then they would've gotten clearer feedback in the review process, and there wouldn't be the same sense of urgency. 16:17 < SigmaWP> A spider landed on my face 16:17 < BarkingFish> benzband, yep - but funnily enough, only 14 cases of direct infection have ever been reported in the US, where this kid was from. 16:17 < Dcoetzee> Although in practice AfC responses tend to also be very templatey... 16:18 < LikeLakers2> what'd you do SigmaWP 16:18 < SigmaWP> I sat in the wrong spot. 16:18 < benzband> BarkingFish: the next sentence might explain it: "Ascariasis is prevalent worldwide and more so in tropical and subtropical countries." 16:18 < BarkingFish> yeah 16:18 < LikeLakers2> no I meant after the spider landed on your face 16:18 < ChrisGualtieri> There, I put out a nice personal message 16:18 -!- Sven_Manguard [~Perhaps@wikipedia/Sven-Manguard] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 16:18 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18 < BarkingFish> Still, bloody unpleasant to have shitloads of these things sitting inside your brain, nomming on it from the inside outwards, benzband 16:18 < SigmaWP> I tried to brush it off 16:18 < LikeLakers2> and? 16:19 < LikeLakers2> :P 16:19 < SigmaWP> It was more like facepalming than anything :P 16:19 < LikeLakers2> lol 16:19 < benzband> BarkingFish: that i do not doubt. it must be horrible. :( 16:20 < BarkingFish> SigmaWP, don't do what my friend at Uni did during a lecture :) He had a bluebottle which had been pissing most of the people in the lecture theatre for about an hour, land in his lap. He swatted the thing with his hand, and went down like a ton of bricks. 16:20 < ChrisGualtieri> Wow... the guy cannot even blank his own userpage without someone warning him 16:20 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:20 < IRWolfie-> Dcoetzee: it seems from his talk page this isn't the first time this has happened with this editor 16:20 < Dcoetzee> :-/ 16:20 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@wikipedia/SarahStierch] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:20 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:21 < SigmaWP> BarkingFish: I'll try to remember that 16:21 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:21 < BarkingFish> ChrisGualtieri, one of the signs of the up and coming vandal - blanking your userpage after warnings, to make it look like you've done nothing wrong :P 16:21 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:21 < ChrisGualtieri> BarkingFish: Please take a look at the users 16:21 < IRWolfie-> he seems to have had two articles speedied 16:21 < ChrisGualtieri> He made an account Saifullah Maan 16:21 < IRWolfie-> not sure if one was a recreation 16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> He created the article with the same content and article as on Saif313's account 16:22 < IRWolfie-> looks like a sock puppet 16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> He blanked his old account (probably unable to access it) 16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> >.> This is clearly the SAME person, not a sock 16:22 < ChrisGualtieri> He hasn't used the other one for years. 16:22 < IRWolfie-> he refers to himself in the third person then 16:23 < IRWolfie-> This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (it is a biographical fact about our leader and it is the only platform to aware the new generation about him. the refrence of authenticity is also provided.) 16:23 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@adsl-99-110-126-77.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:23 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@adsl-99-110-126-77.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:23 -!- AndrewN [~Andrew@wikimedia/AndrewN] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:23 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@wikipedia/SarahStierch] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:23 < BarkingFish> bin 16:23 < BarkingFish> file under N for "No" 16:24 < BarkingFish> evening fabriceflorin :) 16:24 < ChrisGualtieri> I'm just pointing out how impersonal and foreign the mess is, yet we instantly attribute that newbies know everything 16:24 < BarkingFish> as they rightly should. 16:24 < BarkingFish> if you're going to edit, learn how :) 16:25 < ChrisGualtieri> I know you are joking, but in practice this a classic case of shoot first, ask questions later 16:25 < benzband> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_no_clue 16:25 < IRWolfie-> ChrisGualtieri: the main problem is there are too many notices on the page 16:25 < IRWolfie-> the users page that is 16:25 < ChrisGualtieri> XD 16:25 < ChrisGualtieri> I'll be right back 16:25 < BarkingFish> Who said I was joking? I was smiling, because it's true. 16:25 < fabriceflorin> Good evening BarkingFish ! Nice to meet you. 16:25 < haggis> @admin 16:25 < haggis> hello 16:25 < haggis> i need halp 16:25 < BarkingFish> fabriceflorin, we have already met, previously - but hello :D 16:26 -!- coldplay is now known as kat 16:26 < haggis> halp 16:26 < Fluffernutter> what did you break, haggis 16:26 < benzband> haggis, what do you need help with? 16:26 < haggis> Fluffernutter: it's what you broke. 16:26 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:26 < haggis> gadfium can't get into -admins 16:26 < haggis> fix it. 16:26 < Fluffernutter> you don't need an admin for that 16:27 < Fluffernutter> you need someone with superops to the admin channel 16:27 < haggis> and admins know that 16:27 -!- Jasper_Deng [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:27 < BarkingFish> fabriceflorin, i'm the guy from newstrust who mailed you after your takeover by poynter :P 16:27 < Fluffernutter> which is basically "no one you've ever heard of, and also Snowolf" 16:27 < haggis> because they had to find them before 16:27 < haggis> Snowolf! 16:27 < haggis> ZOMG 16:27 < LikeLakers2> wow 16:27 < haggis> he's my bro 16:27 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 16:27 < LikeLakers2> [[Saifullah Maan]] has both a BLP PROD and a CSD tag 16:28 < BarkingFish> LikeLakers2, it's a case of if one fails, the other one will get it, failing that, it heads for afd 16:28 < LikeLakers2> well 16:28 < fabriceflorin> Hi BarkingFish, good to reconnect with you in this new setting! Could you remind me which name you used when emailing me about NewsTrust.net ? 16:28 < LikeLakers2> the CSD is good 16:28 < BarkingFish> hm. lemme go back over my entries, fabriceflorin - i think it's still in email somewhere 16:28 < LikeLakers2> because I see no links in the main text 16:29 < LikeLakers2> and usually I tend to see those be deleted pages 16:30 < BarkingFish> fabriceflorin, it would have been the same name as I use here.... http://www.newstrust.net/stories/7891504/reviews/181321?ref=mp 16:30 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:30 < LikeLakers2> that 16:30 < LikeLakers2> and the fact that almost every sentance begins with the word "he" 16:30 < BarkingFish> it's autobiographical, LikeLakers2 16:30 < BarkingFish> or it's meant to be 16:31 < LikeLakers2> ok 16:31 < LikeLakers2> also, wow the image tells a lot 16:31 < LikeLakers2> [[File:Saif.jpg]] 16:31 < IRWolfie-> I've tidied the text up a bit so it's easier for the new editor to read 16:32 < LikeLakers2> he's definetally made multiple socks, thats for sure 16:32 < IRWolfie-> there was 11k of new text for him to read: way way too much 16:32 < LikeLakers2> I assume to avoid being banned for too many warnings, a thing I'd assume is a lot of sockmaster's reasoning is 16:32 < IRWolfie-> LikeLakers2: he seems determined to break every policy and guideline :> 16:32 < BarkingFish> Frood, any idea why OG is offline? 16:32 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:33 < fabriceflorin> BarkingFish: Very cool. What a small world ;o) I'm here in my new role as product manager for Wikipedia editor engagement tools, but will dig up your NewsTrust email and follow up later tonight. Was there a specific question I can answer quickly here? 16:33 < BarkingFish> no, that's fine fabriceflorin 16:33 -!- DQ|work is now known as DeltaQuad 16:34 < BarkingFish> i was the one who left over the concerns with impartiality under the takeover, more stories about poynter, etc... 16:34 < BarkingFish> completely unfounded, in retrospect, but it was just a concern I had at the time 16:34 < LikeLakers2> :O 16:34 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:34 -!- Anto|away is now known as Antonorsi 16:34 < LikeLakers2> I actually made an edit just now 16:35 < LikeLakers2> Who am I and what have I done with myself?! :P 16:35 < IRWolfie-> I think the main problem with editor rention is that most new editors don't want to be retained 16:35 < IRWolfie-> they want to make a specific article/series of edits and that is all 16:35 < BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, the main problem is simple. The editors who want to stay, start out the wrong way - by trying to jump into everything in one go, and making a dog's lunch of the whole thing. 16:35 < WilliamH_UK> IRWolfie- correct 16:36 < benzband> IRWolfie-, comon all you need to do is introduce them to the pleasures of noob-bashing then they'll enjoy themselves and want to stay 16:36 < fabriceflorin> BarkingFish: Yes, that was a good point, though I haven't seen this to be an issue since you brought it up. These folks are very competent and ethical journalists, and are sensitive to this issue. I did put up one of there stories on the home page when we announced the transition, so people would be aware of their work. But that was a one-time occurrence, and it came from me, not them ;o) 16:36 < BarkingFish> The ones that don't want to be retained don't bother reading anything, and just go hell for leather until they get blocked. 16:36 < IRWolfie-> benzband: I have no issue with new editors. It doesn't make my statement not true 16:37 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:37 -!- turkuamk [~dakkarino@unaffiliated/turkuamk] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:37 < LikeLakers2> BarkingFish, is the template on the image used in the Saif article good? 16:37 < benzband> IRWolfie- that was not a serious comment 16:37 < LikeLakers2> [[File:Saif.jpg]] 16:38 < BarkingFish> IRWolfie-, you and I, i just realized, have nothing in common :P I have a lot of problems with new editors, unless they genuinely show willingness to learn, read and digest what we give them to understand, most will lemming themselves into oblivion. 16:38 < LikeLakers2> +++ 16:38 < LikeLakers2> oops, water bottle fell onto the keyboard 16:38 < Bendersgame> BarkingFish: mmmm brain worms 16:38 < BarkingFish> and that image of the dude is terrible, LikeLakers2 16:38 < benzband> BarkingFish, what about your first steps on Wikipedia? 16:38 < BarkingFish> Yeah, sorry about that benzband 16:38 < LikeLakers2> BarkingFish: is the template used good though? 16:39 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 16:39 < BarkingFish> I got picked up on one thing, benzband - i did something wrong when I uploaded an image. After that, i bogged off and read how I was supposed to do stuff. 16:39 -!- Soapy [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:39 < BarkingFish> i uploaded a pic and forgot to license it, i think 16:39 -!- Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away 16:40 -!- peteforsyth [~peteforsy@wikipedia/peteforsyth] has quit [Quit: peteforsyth] 16:40 < BarkingFish> the template works fine, LikeLakers2 16:40 < LikeLakers2> ok 16:40 -!- SoapX [~Soap@d-24-233-115-212.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:40 -!- SoapX [~Soap@d-24-233-115-212.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:40 -!- SoapX [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:41 < LikeLakers2> though, if it is from facebook, shouldn't it link to the facebook page for the image? 16:41 < benzband> nobody even welcomed me, BarkingFish. not even any fancy warnings. 16:41 < BarkingFish> We used to have the welcome committee, I don't know if we still do though. 16:42 < BarkingFish> Wikinews has an automatic welcome bot - regardless of whether you intend to use the account or not, you get welcomed 16:42 < BarkingFish> maybe we should have one of them. 16:42 < benzband> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee 16:42 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Quit: zzz] 16:43 < benzband> BarkingFish yeah commons too 16:43 < SoapX> welcome bots are controversial 16:43 < benzband> SoapX ? 16:43 < SoapX> Im pretty sure at least one person got blocked for running one here. Granted, though, unauthorized bots in general are blocked here 16:43 < BarkingFish> so is having people coming and saying "nobody welcomed me when I joined", SoapX 16:43 < LikeLakers2> hah 16:43 < LikeLakers2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pyrotronicdisintegrator.gif 16:44 < benzband> though i don't really mind of course ;) 16:44 < LikeLakers2> my userspace is the only userspace to use it 16:44 -!- Soapy [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:44 < LikeLakers2> otherwise its just mainspace 16:44 < benzband> LikeLakers2 does that thing actually exist? 16:44 < LikeLakers2> what thing? 16:45 < benzband> that laser gun 16:45 < LikeLakers2> idk 16:45 < benzband> lol 16:45 < SoapX> but Im pretty sure a request for a welcome bot on enwiki would be denied 16:46 -!- [ceradon] [~ceradon@wikimedia/Ceradon] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 16:46 -!- stevechch [~stevechch@178.96.124.202.static.snap.net.nz] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:47 < BarkingFish> it was patented, benzband - but i don't think it was ever built 16:47 < benzband> (o__o) patented for Star Trek? 16:48 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:48 -!- stevechch [~stevechch@178.96.124.202.static.snap.net.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49 < benzband> hi gadfium! 16:49 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:49 < gadfium> Gidday 16:49 < IRWolfie-> didn't realize toys could be patented 16:49 < IRWolfie-> I thought there was an exemption for that 16:51 < benzband> What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a toy 16:51 < SoapX> the human body is patented 16:52 -!- Aetitiae [~Aetitiae@unaffiliated/aetitiae] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has left #wikipedia-en [] 16:53 -!- Fasttimes68 [~Fasttimes@c-69-143-18-31.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:53 < benzband> SoapX ?? 16:54 < IRWolfie-> benzband: ah sorry 16:54 < IRWolfie-> in reference to the comment earlier, I did not realize you were joking 16:55 < benzband> np 16:55 < Frood> BarkingFish: shut down 16:55 -!- fabriceflorin [~fabricefl@216.38.130.166] has quit [Quit: fabriceflorin] 16:55 < IRWolfie-> BarkingFish: yes on the new editors, I'm still not sure I've found a way to stop them doing it 16:55 < BarkingFish> Frood, you serious? OG is finished? 16:55 < benzband> sometimes i only realize what another user meant once the client is quite and i'm in the middle of my meal 16:56 < benzband> *quit 16:56 * benzband looks at clock 16:56 * benzband brain melts 16:57 < IRWolfie-> yar, must go to bed myself 16:57 < benzband> Zomg i better go to bed 16:57 -!- benzband [5c854c87@wikipedia/benzband] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58 -!- ktron [~EogProd@c-69-136-243-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:59 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:59 -!- Flatworm [4e90c4da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.144.196.218] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 17:01 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:01 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 17:02 < Ironholds> GorillaWarfare! 17:02 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Hey 17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Shit 17:02 < Ironholds> want to hear something cool? 17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Nonono 17:02 < Ironholds> ..? 17:02 < GorillaWarfare> Brb 17:02 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/583/ 17:02 < Ironholds> well, I've had worse responses from women 17:02 < WilliamH_UK> haha, you got told 17:03 < gadfium> One of my favourite xkcd's 17:03 < GorillaWarfare> Back 17:04 < GorillaWarfare> Sorry, I'm babysitting 17:04 < GorillaWarfare> And I'd just put the kids to bed and they started calling my name 17:04 < GorillaWarfare> Which they always do to avoid sleep 17:04 -!- MC8 [~herpes@wikimedia/Microchip08] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:04 < GorillaWarfare> Anyway, Ironholds, yes I would ^^ 17:05 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 17:05 -!- Venusaur [~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05 < Ironholds> GorillaWarfare: you know the curation toolbar? 17:05 < GorillaWarfare> I do indeed 17:06 < Ironholds> go open up a new page. 17:06 -!- Venusaur [~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:06 < GorillaWarfare> Kk 17:07 < GorillaWarfare> Oh hello there! 17:07 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 17:07 < Ironholds> quite 17:08 < GorillaWarfare> How's the deployment gone? 17:09 < Ironholds> it went pretty well, except when we found out the templates were signing with 3 tildes 17:09 < Ironholds> or not signing 17:09 < Ironholds> or not linking to talkpages 17:09 < Ironholds> but we fixeded it. 17:09 < GorillaWarfare> Good ^^ 17:09 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: zZzzZzzZzz!] 17:10 < Ironholds> and tonight I have whisky and RPGs 17:10 * Ironholds nods firmly 17:10 < Ironholds> also, GorillaWarfare? where the fuck are my birthday wishes? 17:10 < GorillaWarfare> Happy birthday!!! 17:10 < Ironholds> it's not my birthday 17:10 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:10 * GorillaWarfare blows her party horn 17:10 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:10 < Ironholds> herher 17:10 < GorillaWarfare> Well you're no fun 17:11 < Ironholds> sorry. Anyway. it was my birthday yesterday. 17:11 < SoapX> happy birthday !!! ♥♥♥ 17:11 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has quit [Quit: AFK] 17:11 < SoapX> what can we give you as gifts? 17:11 < Ironholds> books? trees? a house! 17:13 < SoapX> how about a solar powered flashlight? you charge it up when it's bright out and use it when it's not 17:14 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:15 -!- Ironholds [~Ironholds@wikipedia/Ironholds] has quit [] 17:15 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:16 < SoapX> http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/c/chandyman/108-800.jpg 17:17 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 17:17 -!- Resfirestar_ [sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:17 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@cpc1-dudl6-0-0-cust1981.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 17:18 -!- StevenW [~textual@wikimedia/steven-walling] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:19 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:20 -!- Resfirestar [sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:20 < BarkingFish> <hungry. Gonna go get some more cereal :) 17:21 < BarkingFish> I would have had pizza, but I'm not baking at 1.20 in the morning :P 17:24 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has quit [Changing host] 17:24 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@unaffiliated/barkingfish] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:25 < ToAruShiroiNeko> BarkingFish yo 17:26 -!- Resfirestar_ [sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:26 < BarkingFish> hi :) 17:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript 17:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Dammit 17:26 -!- Wizardman [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/wizardman] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:26 < ToAruShiroiNeko> http://xkcd.com/593/ 17:27 -!- phuzion [~phuzion@208.43.144.61-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:27 -!- ktron [~EogProd@c-69-136-243-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:28 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:28 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@216.38.130.163] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:28 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@216.38.130.163] has quit [Changing host] 17:28 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@wikipedia/SarahStierch] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:28 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@wikipedia/SarahStierch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:31 < BarkingFish> Can i check - for Wiki cloaks on IRC, if you're active on multiple projects, can you pick Wikimedia as your cloak, as opposed to picking an individual project? Or is the Wikimedia cloak reserved for those who are actually part of the WMF, etc? 17:31 < Theopolisme> No, anyone can use it... right? 17:31 < SoapX> yeah 17:31 < SoapX> anyone can get wikimedia cloaks 17:31 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@216.38.130.161] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:31 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@216.38.130.161] has quit [Changing host] 17:31 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@wikipedia/SarahStierch] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:32 -!- SarahStierch [~SarahStie@wikipedia/SarahStierch] has left #wikipedia-en [] 17:32 < BarkingFish> okies, thanks 17:32 < SoapX> well, not literally *anyone* 17:32 < SoapX> they have requirements just like the wikipedia cloaks do 17:32 < SoapX> but there's nothing about being part of the WMF in those requirements 17:32 < Theopolisme> mhm 17:32 < Theopolisme> You just pick it in the form, right? 17:32 < SoapX> I dont know 17:32 < SoapX> I havent done that for 3 years 17:33 < Theopolisme> Ehehe 17:33 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@c-107-4-182-55.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:33 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@c-107-4-182-55.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:33 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:33 -!- RichyRich [~chatzilla@81-178-159-108.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Pale Moon 12.2.1/20120616110620]] 17:33 < mysterytrey> I chose wikimedia and i have, like, 3 edits to commons. 17:34 < Tony_Sidaway> When I applied a month ago I had a choice of projects. Wikimedia was among them to the best of my recollection. 17:34 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:34 < Tony_Sidaway> (re cloaks) 17:34 < mysterytrey> But I got wikimedia with few edits outside enwp 17:35 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@wikipedia/Dougweller] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:36 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:36 < GorillaWarfare> Hungry… o.O 17:36 < SoapX> i dont even think there was a "form" for applying for a cloak when I did. and that was just 3 years ago. It must be new 17:36 < SoapX> it should be logged somewhere on my meta edit history 17:37 -!- YE [~chatzilla@68-186-43-82.static.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:37 < SoapX> hm nope 17:38 < BarkingFish> ah well, cloak request is in, form finished, etc... memo'd the GC's, just gotta sit on my cushions and wait now 17:39 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: zZzzZzzZzz!] 17:39 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:39 < SoapX> maybe they just deleted the page i posted on 17:39 < SoapX> also what happened to your friend mark? 17:40 < SoapX> does he ever go online now? 17:40 < SoapX> We miss him 17:40 < BarkingFish> I have no idea - I've not spoken to him for well over a month now. 17:40 < SoapX> ok 17:40 < BarkingFish> We had a .... falling out, shall we say. 17:40 < BarkingFish> I won't go further into that. 17:41 -!- Wizardman [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/wizardman] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 17:41 < SoapX> ok 17:42 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 17:43 -!- RudyValencia [~me@unaffiliated/rudyvalencia] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:48 < BarkingFish> Anyone here fluent in spanish please? I need some help in #freenode - we've a user in there asking something, and my spanish is shite - I can't understand the guy well enough to figure out what he wants :) 17:49 < BarkingFish> please /join #freenode if you can assist - the guy is waiting right now. User Limechat-7723 17:49 -!- ragesoss [~sage@wikimedia/ragesoss] has left #wikipedia-en [] 17:52 < mysterytrey> Why are you in #freenode? 17:53 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:53 < BarkingFish> to get my old project cloak lifted 17:53 < BarkingFish> Openglobe doesn't exist anymore :( 17:54 < BarkingFish> So I dropped the old cloak and am taking a Wiki one instead 17:54 < jorm> everybody loves curation toolbar, right? 17:54 < Tony_Sidaway> Jorm do you have a link to it? 17:55 < jorm> go to Special:NewPagesFeed and then click review on something. 17:55 < jorm> That will put you into "Curation Mode" 17:55 < jorm> so you'll have the toolbar active until you close it. 17:55 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz... Urgent? Message me: http://enwp.org/User_talk:Theopolisme] 17:55 < Tony_Sidaway> I like it already! 17:56 < mysterytrey> Wait, why are you in #freenode? That didn't really make sense. 17:56 < BarkingFish> mysterytrey, let me explain. #freenode contains the ops who apply unaffiliated cloaks to users. When you have a project cloak, if you want it removed, you ask them. 17:56 < gadfium> That curation bar does look good 17:57 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:57 < mysterytrey> Oh. 17:57 < mysterytrey> Cool. 17:57 < BarkingFish> Now my old cloak is removed (openglobe/BarkingFish) - I am back to unaffiliated, and will eventually get a (wikimedia/BarkingFish) when the GC's get around to processing some more :D 17:58 < Tony_Sidaway> Gosh, gadfium. I haven't seen that Wikipedia username in half a decade! Hello! 17:58 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:58 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:58 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:59 < Tony_Sidaway> Or just another fan of Banks? 18:00 < jorm> it'll be even more awesome with keyboard accellerators. 18:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Tony_Sidaway why do banks have fans? 18:01 < BarkingFish> to stop the customers getting too hot and punching the staff 18:02 < gadfium> Hello Tony 18:02 < gadfium> I am indeed a Banks' fan 18:03 < gadfium> I've been active on Wikipedia for about 8 years now. Just haven't crossed paths with you for a while 18:04 -!- mysterytrey [~3dos@wikimedia/Mysterytrey] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:04 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:04 < Tony_Sidaway> ToAruShiroiNeko: it's the name of a character, s mathematician if I recall correctly, in Fearsum Endjinn by Iain M Banks. 18:05 < gadfium> She was chief scientist 18:05 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to wrap my head around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript 18:06 < jorm> ah, the voynich manuscript. 18:07 < gadfium> Tony, I recall you once used an alias very much in the flavour of Culture ship names 18:09 < Tony_Sidaway> I had to stop that because people complained that the name was too long. It was a minor character from Excession 18:09 < Tony_Sidaway> Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 18:12 < Tony_Sidaway> All spaceships should (a) talk and (b) be far more intelligent than any human. 18:12 -!- LL2|Android [~LL2@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:13 < SigmaWP> Has anyone considered that someone put unreadable crap on the voynich manuscript just to troll anyone who wanted to decode it? 18:13 < gadfium> Not just spaceships. Although I draw the line at toasters (eg Red Dwarf's Talkie Toaster) 18:13 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-8-195.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: tonynoname] 18:15 < BarkingFish> okies, it's late, i'm gonna head out for the night. see ya round :) 18:15 < SoapX> bye 18:15 < BarkingFish> bbfn SoapX 18:15 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@unaffiliated/barkingfish] has quit [Quit: I used to be a werewolf, but I'm alright nooooOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! :)] 18:16 < ToAruShiroiNeko> jorm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgALlSPlZC8 18:16 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 18:17 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 18:18 < SigmaWP> https://xkcd.com/612/ 18:18 < SigmaWP> So true 18:19 < Tony_Sidaway> I have an audio copy of Surface Detail. I'm still in two minds about finding Demeisen one of Banks' most fascinating characters. Peter Kenny narrates his parts with a great deal of David Tennant-like charm. 18:19 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-8-195.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:19 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:20 < jorm> i just finished reading all of those. 18:20 < jorm> i'm totally suprised that i hadn't before now. like, i seriously had read NONE of his sci-fi. 18:20 < jorm> Only "The Bridge" and "The Wasp Factory" 18:20 < gadfium> I read Stonemouth a few weeks ago. I thoroughly enjoyed it. 18:21 < Tony_Sidaway> He's funny and intelligent like the Tenth Doctor, if the Tenth Doctor were a superintelligent machine designed to fight wars. 18:22 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Quit: slaporte] 18:22 < GorillaWarfare> Oh sweet jesus 18:22 < GorillaWarfare> Going to Denny's after I finish babysitting 18:22 < GorillaWarfare> Best day ever 18:22 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:23 -!- slaporte [~slaporte@wikisource/slaporte] has quit [Client Quit] 18:24 < jorm> you have an interesting definition of "best day ever" 18:24 < SigmaWP> ^ 18:25 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 18:25 < gadfium> I can confidently say that all my best days do not involve Dennys. Babysitting did once result in a best day. 18:26 < jorm> Currently, my most epic day was November 28, 2011. 18:27 < SoapX> What happened then? 18:27 < SoapX> was that Thanksgiving? 18:28 < jorm> Well. It was the day after I did an AMA on reddit. and it made the news, all over the place. I got an apology from techcrunch for calling me "creepy"; I was in time magazine, variety, etc. I earned about a million dollars for the Foundation. 18:28 < TeeTylerToe> maybe the Gorilla fighting is quieter in Denny's 18:28 < jorm> It was also my birthday. 18:28 < jorm> And (this is the killer): 18:28 < jorm> Stacey agreed to become my wife. 18:29 < gadfium> I think that qualifies 18:29 < jorm> That was the day that the ring i designed for her arrived in the post. 18:29 < Tony_Sidaway> Great day! 18:29 < jorm> i had it constructed, atom by atom, out of silver. 18:29 < SoapX> a million dollars? whoa 18:29 < SoapX> ok 18:29 < SoapX> and you got married 18:29 < SoapX> Cant beat that 18:29 < jorm> over the course of the fundraiser, i made 8.2 million dollars. 18:30 -!- the_derp [~derp@bas3-longueuil15-3096494736.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:30 < jorm> well. we didn't get married until march. but still. 18:30 * the_derp hugs y'all 18:31 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:32 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o Fluffernutter] by ChanServ 18:32 -!- the_derp [~derp@bas3-longueuil15-3096494736.dsl.bell.ca] has left #wikipedia-en [requested by Fluffernutter (the_derp)] 18:32 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o+b Fluffernutter *!*@bas3-longueuil15-3096494736.dsl.bell.ca] by Fluffernutter 18:34 < Isarra> Hey fluffernutter, could you semiprotect my sockpuppet's talkpage for me? 18:35 < Isarra> I mean, my alternate account. 18:35 < Isarra> Perfectly legitimate alternate account. 18:35 < Fluffernutter> one sec, busybusy 18:37 < Fluffernutter> ok, link? 18:37 -!- NW|away [~NuclearWa@pool-108-20-138-205.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:37 -!- NW|away is now known as NuclearWarfare 18:37 < Tony_Sidaway> For me the birth of my first child has seldom been equalled. Graduation of the same child, perhaps. 18:38 < Isarra> This. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isarra_(HG) 18:38 < Isarra> IPs almost always vandalise it. The intelligent ones manage to find my main one just fine. >.< 18:38 < Fluffernutter> done 18:39 < Isarra> <3 18:39 < Isarra> Thank you. 18:40 < GorillaWarfare> Late, but jorm, that sounds like a pretty great day ^^ 18:41 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@pool-108-20-138-205.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:41 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@wikipedia/NuclearWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:42 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: noc, ppa] 18:42 -!- gadfium [~chatzilla@133.73.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has left #wikipedia-en [] 18:42 < Logan_> Hi NuclearWarfare. 18:42 < NuclearWarfare> hello 18:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Surface Detail is a hoot, which is surprising considering it starts off with a murder. 18:44 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has quit [Quit: brb] 18:44 -!- Logan_ [~Logan@wikimedia/Logan] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:44 < Tony_Sidaway> And even more surprising considering that much of it takes place in a truly harrowing hell. 18:47 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 18:51 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 18:53 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 18:53 -!- Keegan_ [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:54 -!- Keegan_ is now known as Keegan 18:54 -!- Nascar1996 [~Nascar199@wikipedia/Nascar1996] has quit [Quit: Later!] 18:55 -!- James_F is now known as James_F|Away 18:56 -!- xH_ [~randomguy@CPE185933f905fa-CM185933f905f7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:56 -!- xH_ [~randomguy@CPE185933f905fa-CM185933f905f7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #wikipedia-en ["I think therefore I am. I am therefore I think."] 18:59 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:59 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Quit: heatherw] 19:02 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:03 < ToAruShiroiNeko> we need an Isarra (HD) 19:05 * Isarra looms overhead. 19:10 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@cpc1-cdif6-0-0-cust25.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:10 -!- Tony_Sidaway [~Tony_Sida@wikipedia/Tony-Sidaway] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:16 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:18 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@cpc1-cdif6-0-0-cust25.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:21 < SigmaWP> 'token': 'b100d4b7a700e9d727fbd2f89f963f67'} 19:21 < SigmaWP> Heh 19:22 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:24 < jorm> so, those of you using the curation toolbar. 19:24 -!- ToAruShiroiNeko [EVA@wikimedia/ToAruShiroiNeko] has quit [] 19:24 * SigmaWP prods Isarra 19:24 < Isarra> Hmm? 19:24 < jorm> if you find yourself reaching for twinkle, can you stop for a moment and figure out why that is, and then let me know? 19:24 < SigmaWP> jorm: CSD logging :P 19:25 < jorm> werkin' on it. 19:25 < SigmaWP> Yay 19:25 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz... Urgent? Message me: http://enwp.org/User_talk:Theopolisme] 19:26 < Isarra> Twinkle is integrated into the existing interface. The curation toolbar isn't. 19:26 < SigmaWP> Thanks 19:26 < Isarra> I could say more, but I want to be polite for a change 19:26 < Isarra> . 19:27 < Isarra> Suffice to say my initial response was to make it go away as quickly as possible, however. 19:27 < jorm> we're going to get it into the sidebar. 19:27 -!- ty [~ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:28 < Isarra> The sidebar on the other side of the page? 19:28 * Peter-C licks GorillaWarfare 19:28 * Peter-C runs 19:28 < GorillaWarfare> Whoa 19:28 < GorillaWarfare> I'm still on IRC 19:28 < Peter-C> :o 19:28 < Peter-C> nowai 19:28 -!- Earwig [~earwig@wikipedia/The-Earwig] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:28 < NuclearWarfare> A now-good friend of mine once licked me on the elbow 19:28 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:28 < NuclearWarfare> We were introduced eighteen months later 19:28 < SigmaWP> 'token': 'b100d4b7a700e9d727fbd2f89f963f67'} 19:29 < SigmaWP> That's a cruel thing to do 19:29 < NuclearWarfare> They were proving a point 19:29 < NuclearWarfare> I didn't notice at all 19:29 < GorillaWarfare> I'm not really paying attention to much other than if these kids' parents are driving in... 19:29 < GorillaWarfare> Need. Pancakes. 19:29 < Isarra> Pancakes. o__o 19:29 * Isarra runs off. 19:29 < Peter-C> GorillaWarfare + NuclearWarfare in IRC = confusing 19:29 < NuclearWarfare> lemme fix that 19:29 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@wikipedia/NuclearWarfare] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:29 < GorillaWarfare> We do what we can 19:30 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@wikipedia/NuclearWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:30 < GorillaWarfare> Oh noez! Look what you've done! 19:30 < Frood> Peter-C: you suck go away 19:30 < NuclearWarfare> This channel has conference mode anyway, doesn't it 19:30 < Peter-C> :o 19:30 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:31 < SigmaWP> Depends on the client 19:32 < Frood> NuclearWarfare: no? 19:32 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP, Frood: hey! 19:32 < SigmaWP> Sp33dyphil: Hi. 19:32 < SigmaWP> Debugging is annoying. 19:32 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: hope you're going well. 19:33 -!- ToAruShiroiNeko [EVA@wikimedia/ToAruShiroiNeko] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:33 < Frood> Hi. 19:34 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: I'm happy to announce that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III is basically complete 19:34 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 19:35 < Sp33dyphil> hey SigmaWP, did you follow Google I/O six weeks ago? 19:35 < GorillaWarfare> What's conference mode? 19:36 < SigmaWP> Sp33dyphil: Input/Output? 19:36 < Sp33dyphil> the conference in SF 19:36 < Sp33dyphil> yes 19:36 < SigmaWP> I am not aware of any Google-related conferences 19:37 < Sp33dyphil> you're saying that you've never heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_I/O even tho you live in SF? 19:38 * SoapX nominates [[Samsung_Galaxy_S_III]] for speedy deletion as an infringment of [[iPhone]] 19:38 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: ^ 19:39 < Logan_> HI FROOD 19:39 < Sp33dyphil> SoapX: that'll be the Galaxy S 19:39 < Frood> HI LOGAN 19:39 < SigmaWP> Yup 19:39 < Logan_> Lawyers designed the Galaxy S III. 19:39 < Logan_> It's nothing like an iPhone. 19:39 < Frood> what Logan_ said 19:39 < Frood> i was typing it 19:39 < Logan_> For better or for worse. 19:39 < Frood> but yeah, lawyers basically designed it and designers polished it 19:39 < Frood> its quality is sub-par 19:39 < Frood> but the specs are awesome 19:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> hmm? 19:40 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: I mean, I've been watching a few I/O videos on youtube 19:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I think both are stealing from the PADD of TNG 19:40 < Frood> the fake brushed aluminum really gets me. 19:40 < Sp33dyphil> and it got me thinking 19:40 < ToAruShiroiNeko> therefore Paramount owns the copyright 19:40 < Logan_> Frood: You and your brushed aluminum. :P 19:40 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: liquid metal ftw! *Microsoft Surface* 19:41 < Frood> Logan_: I hate it 19:41 < Frood> But I love it. 19:41 < SigmaWP> Those sorts of things encourage people to consume rather than create 19:41 < Logan_> You told me. 19:41 < SigmaWP> According to that one guy 19:41 < Frood> If they gloss it with something it's okay 19:41 < Frood> If not, I hate it. 19:41 < SigmaWP> ./ctcp Frood version 19:41 < Logan_> Frood: I have the same thing with styrofoam. 19:41 < Frood> like, a clear coat of paint 19:41 < SigmaWP> Frood: What client are you using on what OS? 19:41 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@076-076-146-078.pdx.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:41 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@076-076-146-078.pdx.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:41 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@wikipedia/Tiptoety] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:41 < Frood> that fixes it 19:41 * Frood ** WinSys ** Client: XChat-WDK 1508-3 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8025 MB Total (3040 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 128.78 Hours ** 19:42 < Logan_> Frood: when a finger nail scratches on styrofoam 19:42 < Logan_> it makes me shiver 19:42 < SigmaWP> I thought you had debian ;-; 19:42 < Frood> Logan_: also dry hands on freshly-washed dishes 19:42 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuC0i4xTyrI 19:42 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: ^ 19:43 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:43 < Logan_> Frood: STOP 19:43 < Frood> Logan_: what 19:43 < Logan_> you are putting noises in my head 19:43 < Logan_> bad noises :( 19:43 * Logan_ hits Frood with a frying pan 19:44 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: I have the Nexus 7. 19:44 < Logan_> And a Galaxy Nexus. 19:44 < Logan_> I'm all Nexus'd out. 19:44 < mareklug> Frood: but you were so happy w/ the phone. now you're saying it's bad design? 19:44 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: how hard is it to write a simple app for Android, and what language would I need to learn? 19:44 < Logan_> It's a hideous phone. 19:44 < Frood> mareklug: Yes. 19:44 < Logan_> But it's fast. 19:44 < SigmaWP> Sp33dyphil: Java or something 19:44 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Java 19:44 < Frood> The phone is amazing 19:44 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_ BRAVO! 19:45 < Frood> But the design is pretty bad 19:45 < Logan_> Frood: but it's ugly 19:45 < Frood> It's cheaply built 19:45 < Frood> But it makes up for that with the specs 19:45 < Logan_> all plastic 19:45 < SigmaWP> public class Hello world { function main(String[] args and *other **shit) { system.out.println("Hello world"); } } 19:45 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: wat's cheap and ugly? 19:45 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:45 * Sp33dyphil has got to learn Java 19:46 < SigmaWP> Have fun 19:46 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: S2 vs Galaxy Nexus, which one is the overall winner? 19:46 < Logan_> Galaxy Nexus, of course 19:47 < Logan_> but vs. the S3, it's a bit iffy 19:47 < Sp33dyphil> testify. 19:47 < Frood> dual-core 19:47 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: you're not happy with S3? 19:47 < Frood> Google's dev phone 19:47 < Frood> Sp33dyphil: I'm very happy with it 19:47 < Frood> But it's built cheaply. 19:47 < Frood> Completely plastic 19:48 < Sp33dyphil> ^ positive or negative? 19:48 < Frood> negative... 19:48 < SoapX> hm 19:48 < Sp33dyphil> Frood: any other negatives? 19:49 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: how are you finding the Nexus 7? 19:49 < SoapX> poor signal strength, Ive heard 19:49 < SoapX> on the S3 19:49 < Sp33dyphil> ^ yep 19:49 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: it's awesome 19:49 < Logan_> I wish it had 4G, but I guess that's what my phone is for 19:50 < Sp33dyphil> glad to hear! I'm collecting sources prior to a revamp of [[Nexus 7]] 19:50 < SigmaWP> \O/ 19:50 < SigmaWP> \o/ 19:50 < Frood> you have a huge head 19:50 * SigmaWP slowly claps at Frood 19:50 < Sp33dyphil> SigmaWP: I get that a lot! *Sp33dyphil knows he's awesome* 19:50 < Sp33dyphil> jk 19:50 < Logan_> Frood: >:-( 19:51 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: can you take a few photos of your Nexus? 19:51 < Logan_> oh 19:51 < Logan_> SigmaWP: 19:51 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: yes 19:51 < Logan_> I shall take them with my Galaxy Nexus 19:51 < Logan_> to be all meta 19:51 < Logan_> :O there are no pictures of it on Commons 19:51 < Logan_> I shall be the first! 19:51 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: yay! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_7 looks so crap without any photos! 19:51 < Frood> Logan_: then take a picture of your Galaxy Nexus with your Nexus 7 19:52 < Logan_> with my PlayBook! 19:52 < Logan_> or my Chromebook! :P 19:52 < SoapX> how do you like the Playbook? 19:52 < Logan_> it sucks 19:52 < Logan_> but it was free 19:52 < SoapX> ok 19:52 < Logan_> so what gives 19:52 < SigmaWP> I am going to create the first Python 3 MediaWiki API framework. 19:52 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: can you take a photo of both Nexuses at the same time? 19:52 < SoapX> free? 19:52 < Frood> OH Logan_ 19:52 < Logan_> I get free stuff 19:52 < Logan_> nbd 19:52 < Frood> today I saw someone use an iPad for recording a video 19:52 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: yus 19:52 < Frood> But he looked redic 19:52 < Logan_> Frood: ugh 19:52 < SoapX> ok 19:53 < SoapX> frood, yeah me too 19:53 < Logan_> SoapX: I got the PlayBook for free because I developed an app for it 19:53 < Logan_> that's how desperate RIM is 19:53 < SoapX> I work in a mall and we see people recording their kids with iPads sometimes 19:53 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Is a wood surface okay? 19:53 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_; you're a developer? Nice 19:54 < Logan_> I shall take the pictures with my Droid Incredible 19:54 < Logan_> it is settled 19:54 < SoapX> i wonder what are the chances I'd get a free iPad if I wrote an app for it 19:54 < Logan_> slim to none :P 19:54 < Frood> SoapX: none. 19:54 < Sp33dyphil> gtg 19:54 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: wood would be fine 19:54 -!- YE|AFK is now known as YE 19:54 -!- Sp33dyphil [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Sp33dyphil] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 19:55 < SigmaWP> jorm: I think the edit summary for curation should include if you added a deletion tag or not 19:55 < SigmaWP> To make things easier when scanning contribs 19:56 < Logan_> I have to clean off the screens 19:56 < Logan_> brb 20:00 < SigmaWP> Who wants to help me take the coal balls to FA? :D 20:01 < Frood> nobody 20:02 < Logan_> okay, so I have pics 20:02 < Logan_> un segundo por favor 20:02 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: GorillaWarfare] 20:02 * Logan_ picks the best ones 20:04 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:05 < Gfoley4> Dwight Howard to the Lakers. -_- 20:06 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06 < Frood> Dwight Schrute to The Office ^_^ 20:07 < Gfoley4> I thought he was leaving The office 20:07 < mareklug> Orlando clearly does not care to be competitive anymore 20:08 -!- SoapX [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 20:08 < Matthew_> Gfoley4: You want to give me a hand, I need either a delete or a histmerge. 20:08 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:08 < Matthew_> *hand? 20:08 < Gfoley4> mareklug: the nets deal looks better than this 20:09 < Gfoley4> Matthew_: yeah sure. I'm a little rusty on histmerges though 20:09 < Frood> Gfoley4: delete and run 20:09 < Frood> that's all you do 20:09 < SigmaWP> Gfoley4: Delete, move, delete, undelete 20:09 < Frood> delete and run 20:09 < Gfoley4> Frood: "and Rainn Wilson will appear in at least 13 episodes before leaving for the planned Dwight spin-off." 20:09 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:10 < Matthew_> Gfoley4: That's OK, it's a copy-paste move: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Gold_%26_Bones_Part_1 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/House_of_Gold_%26_Bones_Part_1 The article should probably be in the AfC area. 20:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Isarra: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/17/parents-name-child-dovahkiin-earn-a-lifetimes-worth-of-bethesda-games/ 20:11 < Matthew_> Frood: Actually, a csd on the main article wouldn't be a bad option, but I'm trying to be nice 20:11 < ToAruShiroiNeko> O_O 20:11 < LtNOWIS> Is anyone else not seeing lines here anymore? 20:11 < LtNOWIS> er, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Harry_Potter 20:11 < LtNOWIS> I think I broke it with DAB solver 20:11 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:12 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has left #wikipedia-en [] 20:12 < Matthew_> LtNOWIS: Looking... 20:12 < mareklug> LtNOWIS: you mean on the table? indeed, no lines. 20:12 < LtNOWIS> alright, I think I can fix it 20:13 < Matthew_> LtNOWIS: You removed the border declaration from the table XD 20:13 < LtNOWIS> that'll teach me to not use preview with DAB solver 20:13 < Gfoley4> Matthew_: it's back at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/House_of_Gold_%26_Bones_Part_1 20:14 < Matthew_> Gfoley4: Thank you. :) 20:14 -!- localhost [~chris@cpe-76-188-161-222.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14 < Gfoley4> It's cool. 20:15 -!- localhost [~chris@cpe-76-188-161-222.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:16 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:21 -!- Kiewii [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has quit [Quit: .] 20:23 -!- FastLizard4|zZzZ is now known as FastLizard4 20:24 -!- Gfoley4 [~Gfoley4@wikipedia/Gfoley4] has quit [Quit: !] 20:28 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Quit: Changing computers] 20:28 -!- OlEnglish [~OlEnglish@wikipedia/OlEnglish] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:31 -!- MRB[away] [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:32 -!- MRB[away] is now known as Matthew_ 20:33 < Logan_> Frood mareklug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_7 20:34 -!- Thoreau [~R@sm1-84-91-37-56.netvisao.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34 -!- Logan_ is now known as Logan|Colbert 20:34 < Isarra> PING?! 20:34 < Isarra> Also chicken. 20:35 < Isarra> And lemur toes. They've gotten loose in the priory again. 20:35 < mareklug> not sure the wood bckg adds to clarity. i'd crop it out altogether 20:37 < Isarra> Ghack, I'm in the wrong channel again. 20:38 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39 < BlastHardcheese> OR ARE YOU 20:40 < Isarra> Pretty sure this channel is for an encyclopedia that happens to be a pile of words put together in some particular order. 20:41 < Matthew_> Wait, there was an order? I've just been putting them in randomly... 20:41 < Shirik> ^ 20:41 < Isarra> Oh. 20:41 < Isarra> Hmm. 20:41 < Isarra> Fnurdletoot? 20:41 < Shirik> that's not a word 20:41 < Shirik> you have to use words 20:41 < Shirik> there's just no order 20:41 < Isarra> Then this is the wrong encyclopedia. 20:41 -!- Sp33dyphil [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Sp33dyphil] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:42 * Isarra wanders off in search of apathy in action. 20:42 < Sp33dyphil> LoganCloud: hi, you're Logan_ right? 20:44 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:45 < Logan|Colbert> Sp33dyphil: Hi. 20:45 < Sp33dyphil> huh? 20:46 < Sp33dyphil> are you Logan_? 20:46 < Logan|Colbert> Yes. 20:46 < Logan|Colbert> I am watching the Colbert Report. 20:46 -!- NuclearWarfare [~NuclearWa@wikipedia/NuclearWarfare] has left #wikipedia-en [] 20:46 -!- WilliamH_UK [WilliamH@Wikipedia/WilliamH] has quit [] 20:46 < Sp33dyphil> Thanks for your photos; I've hid them for now as I need to maintain a "strategic distance" from the article 20:47 < Sp33dyphil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tony1/How_to_improve_your_writing#Attaining_.22strategic_distance.22 20:47 < Logan|Colbert> Oh course. 20:47 < Logan|Colbert> f 20:47 < Logan|Colbert> Do whatever you need. 20:47 < Logan|Colbert> All the pictures are at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Nexus_7 if/when you need them. 20:47 < Logan|Colbert> (Including one with the Nexus 7 and the Galaxy Nexus next to each other). 20:48 < Sp33dyphil> I'm wondering if somebody can photoshop the photos so they'd look similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPad_3.png without the background? 20:50 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert: also, in case you have Wifi, can you snap a photo from a similar angle to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPhone_4S_unboxing_17-10-11.jpg with Google Now running? 20:51 < Logan|Colbert> ok 20:53 < Frood> Does anybody know of an addon that makes all the Youtube comments on Firefox "herp derp" or something? 20:53 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:53 < Frood> I said Firefox 20:53 < Frood> If you suggest the Chrome extension that I know exists, I will kill you. 20:53 < Frood> I said Firefox for a reason. 20:55 < TeeTylerToe> weren't the androids in bladerunner called like nexus 8? 20:55 -!- yrtneg [~crazilon@wikipedia/yrtneg] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:55 < TeeTylerToe> Tyrell corporation Nexus-6 20:56 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:58 < yrtneg> MC WMA/WMF COS : 8.**.**.7 [/:mw:] 21:00 < yrtneg> Calvin Harris FTW 21:03 < Logan|Colbert> Frood: http://labs.tannr.com/projects/herpderp/firefox/1.2/herpderp.xpi 21:03 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:03 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@pool-96-240-145-90.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:03 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:03 < Frood> Logan|Colbert: <3 21:03 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 21:06 -!- ty is now known as tyime 21:06 < Logan|Colbert> Sp33dyphil: how's this? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nexus_7_with_Google_Now.jpg 21:06 -!- IShadowed_ is now known as IShadowed 21:07 < Logan|Colbert> Frood: ^ 21:07 < Frood> Logan|Colbert: fapfap 21:07 < Logan|Colbert> ikr 21:08 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert!: That's wat I wanted! Need to tone down the background tho ;) 21:08 < Logan|Colbert> unfortunately, I don't have any solid white/gray surfaces 21:09 < Logan|Colbert> at least, I don't think I do 21:09 < Logan|Colbert> I guess I could print out a piece of paper 21:09 < Logan|Colbert> and put it on that 21:09 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert: dont worry 21:09 < Logan|Colbert> ok 21:09 < Sp33dyphil> I'll get rid of it 21:09 -!- yrtneg [~crazilon@wikipedia/yrtneg] has left #wikipedia-en [] 21:09 < Logan|Colbert> shouldn't be too difficult 21:09 < Logan|Colbert> just cut around the shadow 21:10 < Logan|Colbert> Frood: I don't know if you noticed 21:10 < Logan|Colbert> but I whited out the town name for the weather 21:10 < Logan|Colbert> :P 21:10 -!- tyime is now known as tiame 21:10 < Logan|Colbert> it should be in the top left 21:10 < Frood> oh, 21:10 < TeeTylerToe> lorem ipsum? 21:11 < Logan|Colbert> does anyone need PlayBook and/or Chromebook photos? :P 21:12 < Logan|Colbert> wow 21:12 < Logan|Colbert> my PlayBook is the same exact thickness as the Nexus 7 21:12 < Logan|Colbert> but the Nexus 7 looks so much thinner because it is tapered 21:13 -!- Keegan_ [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:15 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:15 -!- Keegan_ is now known as Keegan 21:15 < Sp33dyphil> Logan|Colbert: is the Galaxy Nexus compatible with Samsung Kies? 21:16 -!- ChrisGualtieri [47eae49b@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:16 -!- Inous [~al_killa@pool-173-58-11-57.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:16 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.154.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17 -!- Inous [~al_killa@pool-173-58-11-57.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 21:20 < LtNOWIS> was was Colbert tonight anyways? 21:21 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:22 -!- tiame is now known as tyime 21:22 -!- DeltaQuad [~quassel@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:25 < Frood> Sp33dyphil: I really doubt it. 21:25 < Frood> The Nexus series is pure Android 21:25 < Frood> pure as in, no extra shit from manufactures 21:25 < Frood> whatsoever 21:25 < Frood> including Kies 21:25 -!- Logan|Colbert is now known as Logan_ 21:26 < Logan_> Frood: ++ 21:26 -!- heatherw [~hwalls@wikimedia/heatherawalls] has quit [Client Quit] 21:30 -!- Apheori [~dirien@wikimedia/Isarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:31 -!- aoke1989 [~Administr@wikipedia/Aoke1989] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:31 -!- mys_721tx [~mys_721tx@ResNet-60-70.resnet.ucsb.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:31 -!- mys_721tx [~mys_721tx@ResNet-60-70.resnet.ucsb.edu] has quit [Changing host] 21:31 -!- mys_721tx [~mys_721tx@wikipedia/mys-721tx] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:42 -!- Frood is now known as Froodsleep 21:43 -!- Nix-7c0 [~Owner@h105.117.232.68.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44 -!- Anna_F_afk [Anna_Frode@wikipedia/Anna-Frodesiak] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:44 < Anna_F_afk> im blocked from linkedin 21:44 < Anna_F_afk> pls could someone ;check 21:44 < Anna_F_afk> in.linkedin.com/in/consultshravan 21:44 < Anna_F_afk> looking for a coi editor 21:44 < Anna_F_afk> Shravan shetty 21:44 -!- Anna_F_afk is now known as Anna_Frodesiak 21:46 < Anna_Frodesiak> ? 21:46 < Anna_Frodesiak> is it him? 21:48 < nprice> why are you blocked from linkedin? for going on off-wiki witchhunts there? 21:48 < nprice> and yes, that's the guy's name 21:48 < nprice> i'm sure there are plenty of people with that name 21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> baking powder? 21:49 < nprice> coi is certainly worth cyberstalking someone over 21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> i am blocked from linkedin because im in china 21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> this is not a witchunt 21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> he wants to be unblocked 21:49 < nprice> lol 21:49 < Anna_Frodesiak> trying to figure out if he's conning us 21:50 < nprice> well yes that profile does belong to someone with the same name 21:50 < nprice> i hope that sorts things out 21:50 < Anna_Frodesiak> looking for someone who is professionally editing for Vu TelePresence 21:50 < Anna_Frodesiak> and not disclosing 21:51 < nprice> last update on there he was selling office furniture 21:51 < nprice> sounds like your guy 21:52 < Anna_Frodesiak> why does it sound like my guy? 21:53 < Anna_Frodesiak> looking for the guy who does promo work, not sells furniture 21:56 < Anna_Frodesiak> could you pls check this 21:56 < Anna_Frodesiak> https://plus.google.com/114873023921825838083/about 21:56 < Anna_Frodesiak> also blocked in china 21:57 < Anna_Frodesiak> it comes from googling Devita Saraf Shravan shetty 21:57 < Anna_Frodesiak> devita is founder of the company 22:01 -!- Tiptoety [~Tiptoety@wikipedia/Tiptoety] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 22:01 -!- MC8 [~herpes@host31-53-199-187.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:01 -!- MC8 [~herpes@host31-53-199-187.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:01 -!- MC8 [~herpes@wikimedia/Microchip08] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:02 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@12.152.53.220] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02 < Sp33dyphil> Logan_: can you help me sort something else? 22:02 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@5ad1e048.bb.sky.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:02 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@5ad1e048.bb.sky.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:02 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:03 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@cpc30-mfld14-2-0-cust151.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:03 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@cpc30-mfld14-2-0-cust151.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:03 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@wikipedia/Dougweller] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:04 < Logan_> Sp33dyphil: Sure, what's up? 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