User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2012-01-03

Session Start: Tue Jan 03 15:06:56 2012
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[15:06] * Set by Fluffernutter!~Fluffernu@wikipedia/Fluffernutter on Fri Dec 23 22:26:48
[15:07] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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[15:07] <lapompo> "The Cones Hotline was a hotline introduced by then Prime Minister John Major in June 1992. The hotline was designed to allow members of the public to enquire about roadworks on the country's roads and report areas where traffic cones had been deployed on a road for no apparent reason. The telephone number for the hotline (originally 0345 504030, later 08457 504030) was usually displayed on signs after sections of roadworks."
[15:07] <lapompo> ??!????!??!?!?!!?!?!?
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[15:07] <PeterSymonds> Must be foreign characters. All I saw was question and exclamation marks.
[15:07] <SEEmyCAMMALE> Anybody wants to see me naked?
[15:07] <TBloemink> Probably
[15:08] <TBloemink> whack him peter
[15:08] <SEEmyCAMMALE> TBloemink, you want?
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[15:08] <TBloemink> Thanks.
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[15:08] <Giridhar> Put the blame on the VTR!!!!!!!
[15:09] <livitup> "It was rumoured that many of these calls were not serious enquiries."
[15:09] <Giridhar> Can we pretend that airplanes
[15:09] <Giridhar> are like shooting stars
[15:09] <livitup> NO WAY
[15:09] <Giridhar> i could really use a wish right now
[15:09] <Giridhar> wish right now wish right now
[15:09] <PeterSymonds> I wish you would leave.
[15:09] <PeterSymonds> Let's see if it gets granted.
[15:09] <Giridhar> PeterSymonds , thou sucks.
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[15:11] <Fluffernutter> well really, there's no call for rudeness
[15:11] <Giridhar> Fluffernutter, can i see you naked?
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[15:11] <TBloemink> heh
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[15:11] <Fluffernutter> aw
[15:11] <Fluffernutter> i was trying to think up a clever annotation
[15:11] <Steven_Zhang> aw
[15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thehelpfulone you know french?
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[15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> translate stuff for me!
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[15:12] <Fluffernutter> along the lines of "my boyfriend says no, sorry"
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[15:12] <Thehelpfulone> ToAruShiroiNeko: heh, not that much :P
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[15:12] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[15:12] <PeterSymonds> Le-aideful-un.
[15:12] <Thehelpfulone> fr-2 ish
[15:12] <livitup> lol
[15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thehelpfulone aw
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[15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> kick msg makes you fr-N :p
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[15:12] <uschwusch_2860> Fluffernutter, can i see you naked?
[15:12] <TBloemink> pfff
[15:12] <Fluffernutter> nope
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[15:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> someone should direct schwusch_2860 to commons
[15:12] <Fluffernutter> i'll just...stay up here for a moment
[15:13] <Steven_Zhang> yah
[15:13] <Thehelpfulone> Fluffernutter: it's +r now
[15:13] <Fluffernutter> ah, k
[15:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> +r for retarded :d
[15:13] <Steven_Zhang> +r is a bit much
[15:13] <Fluffernutter> wow, rarely does one get bashed over the head by three sops at once
[15:13] <Fluffernutter> that guy should be proud
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[15:13] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: you must be really hot, because a lot of people want to... XD
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[15:13] <PeterSymonds> Something to tweet about I guess.
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[15:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter he must be loved
[15:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sex@wikipedia/MZMcBride <- almost fell for it :p
[15:14] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[15:14] <TBloemink> indeed xD
[15:14] <TBloemink> did the same for -ops
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[15:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thehelpfulone actually how is your german?
[15:15] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSymonds: only soundtrack.net has the release date as far as I can see.,
[15:15] <Steven_Zhang> lemme check lexisnexis
[15:15] <Thehelpfulone> sorry, that's de-0
[15:16] <PeterSymonds> Unfortunately, I don't think you'll be able to use it, then.
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[15:17] <Steven_Zhang> i found a source that detailed who offered the digital download
[15:18] <PeterSymonds> I found a source that poodles originated from Mars. But it doesn't help your cause much. :-)
[15:18] <livitup> I knew that there was something fishy about poodles
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[15:19] <Steven_Zhang> yeh, i've got nothing.
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�06[15:20] * Fluffernutter kicks her internet in the head
[15:21] <TBloemink> hurr durr
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[15:24] <Steven_Zhang> eh, it does say that it was released to digital download, so I just replaced the last part of the sentence with "...was made available for digital download after the game was released.[16]"
[15:27] <Steven_Zhang> it could be wordse
[15:28] <Fluffernutter> who broke my wiki
[15:28] <Fluffernutter> give it back
[15:28] <petan> if there is someone who is really good with layout of wikipages, folks from cs wiki would need it :o
[15:28] <petan> unfortunatelly I am really lame in that
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[15:34] <Steven_Zhang> so my connection shit itself
[15:34] <Steven_Zhang> that explains a lot.
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[15:47] <Peter-C> hola
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[15:47] <Qcoder00> Hi
[15:47] <TBloemink> hi
[15:47] <Qcoder00> Why did Twinkle just break?
[15:48] <Qcoder00> I get Gateway Time out Error's when ever I try to do anything in Twinkle?
[15:48] <livitup> let me look for something to CSD… :)
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[15:50] <livitup> yup
[15:50] <livitup> it's dead, jim
�06[15:50] * Thehelpfulone looks
[15:50] <lapompo> "The Cones Hotline was a hotline introduced by then Prime Minister John Major in June 1992. The hotline was designed to allow members of the public to enquire about roadworks on the country's roads and report areas where traffic cones had been deployed on a road for no apparent reason. The telephone number for the hotline (originally 0345 504030, later 08457 504030) was usually displayed on signs after sections of roadworks."
[15:50] <lapompo> !?!
[15:51] <livitup> Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=xml&action=query&titles=Main%20Page&prop=revisions&rvprop=content in a few minutes.
[15:51] <Steven_Zhang>  Bah
[15:51] <livitup> methinks the API is borked
[15:52] <Thehelpfulone> the wiki in general is loading slowly for me
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[15:52] <livitup> it's a foundation error message - server problems, nothing en. did.
[15:52] <Qcoder00> livitup: OMG it's 2012!!!
[15:52] <Qcoder00> XD:)
[15:53] <livitup> Qcoder00:  ???
[15:53] <Troii> hah..
[15:53] <mattbuck> oh so that's why hotcat and flickr2commons are dead
[15:54] <Qcoder00> livitup:  Joke
[15:54] <Qcoder00> Whenever the servers through a wobbly there are conspiracy theories
[15:54] <Qcoder00> *go through
[15:54] <livitup> ah
[15:54] <livitup> yes
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[15:54] <livitup> the Y12 bug
[15:56] <livitup> http://status.wikimedia.org/8777/156484/API
[15:57] <Qcoder00> <SFX: Drama chords>
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[15:59] <livitup> I'm blaming the dog with the shifty eyes.
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[16:02] <Fluffernutter> my dog is giving me the "I will murder you and alll you love" eyes
�06[16:03] * PeterSJC wonders whether lupin's anti-vandal tool is up. I installed and started using it a few days ago, but now, at the screen that says "you should see activity below this line soon," nothing happens.
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[16:04] <Qcoder00> PeterSJC: The PAI is borked up - see  -tech
[16:04] <Qcoder00> *API
[16:04] <livitup> Reference the shifty-eyed dog.
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[16:05] <PeterSJC> Qcoder00: Thanks. How do I "see -tech *API"?
[16:06] <Qcoder00> PeterSJC: /join #wikimedia-tech
[16:06] <PeterSJC> Cool...  Thanks much
[16:06] <Qcoder00> The staus line says the API is down
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[16:11] <PeterSJC> Qcoder00: So, the API is accessed through a different server from that which supports end-user functions (which all seem to be working)?
[16:11] <Qcoder00> Seems so
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[16:12] <PeterSJC> This might explain why the command window where I started STiki is going crazy with I/O exception messages.
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[16:14] <Qcoder00> !op
[16:14] <Fluffernutter> what
[16:14] <Thehelpfulone> yes
[16:14] <Qcoder00> Getting a lot of spam message
[16:15] <Thehelpfulone> Qcoder00: we can't do anything about that unless these users are in this channel to kick them
[16:15] <Qcoder00> OK
[16:15] <Thehelpfulone> mrmist: do they report nicks to #freenode of spammers?
[16:15] <Ryulong> or
[16:15] <Ryulong> yeah that could happen
[16:15] <Ryulong> but they just tell you to ignore them
[16:15] <Ryulong> because freenode staff can be lazy
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[16:16] <Fluffernutter> more likely overworked
[16:17] <Steven_Zhang> am i going to say that every day until it is released? yes, cos I love FFX
[16:17] <Steven_Zhang> oops.
[16:17] <Steven_Zhang> wrong channel
[16:17] <Steven_Zhang> >_>
[16:18] <Qcoder00> Steven_Zhang: LOL
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[16:19] <Steven_Zhang> -.-
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[16:19] <livitup> FFX is sooooo dreamy.
[16:19] <jubo2> ǝʇɐןoɔoɥɔ ʇoɥ uıq ɥɔı
[16:19] <Steven_Zhang> you are hot chocolate?
[16:19] <Steven_Zhang> ich bin ein hamburger
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[16:21] <jubo2> yeah !!!OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[16:21] <Fluffernutter> what
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[16:21] <Qcoder00> Any admins in?
[16:22] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: can you semi [[Senkaku Islands]] plz
[16:22] <Steven_Zhang> it really should be indef given the topic./
[16:22] <Fluffernutter> uh
[16:22] <jubo2> Le seeee-jjjjjjjzjzjzjzeeeeee-veeeee...
[16:22] <Fluffernutter> Steven_Zhang, i try not to stick my hands into clusterfucks
[16:22] <Fluffernutter> what's the problem there
[16:22] <Steven_Zhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Senkaku_Islands&action=history
[16:22] <jubo2> CGW == Cycle Grand Vitesse
[16:22] <Steven_Zhang> people changing the title of the article in the infobox
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[16:23] <Steven_Zhang> eg http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Senkaku_Islands&diff=462171618&oldid=462153579
[16:23] <jubo2> totally derived from teeeee-jjzjzjzjjzjzjzjzjjzeeeeee-veeeeee
[16:23] <Fluffernutter> jubo2, be quiet please
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[16:24] <jubo2> TGV's are cool
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: aw come on, i'd do it if i was an admin
[16:24] <jubo2> There is one that goes 200 in .fi
[16:24] <Fluffernutter> Steven_Zhang: i see one instance of that in the past three weeks or so, which wouldn't normally call for semi-ing. If you think it needs ot becaise of the arbcom case for some reason, AE is probably where you want to go
[16:24] <Steven_Zhang> you could technically do it per DS
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[16:25] <jubo2> but by the parisian definition of TGV that's oevr 300 I think between Paris and Marseille
[16:25] <Fluffernutter> DS?
[16:25] <Steven_Zhang> discretionary sanctions...
[16:25] <Steven_Zhang> :P
[16:26] <jubo2> le plussieur ply pour le pluspart pour vanite ?
[16:26] <Fluffernutter> you;ll want an admin who enjoys swimming in shit for that
[16:26] <Fluffernutter> i'm not it
[16:26] <jubo2> ou beaute peut-être ..?
[16:27] <Fluffernutter> jubo2, speak english and stop rambling
[16:28] <Qcoder00> Any template Guru in?
[16:28] <Steven_Zhang> Fluffernutter: can you at least give a {{subst:Uw-sanctions|topic=Senkaku Islands}} to [[User talk:109.58.248.67]]
[16:28] <Firebolt> or go to #wikipedia-fr
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[16:28] <Steven_Zhang> hm
[16:28] <Thogo> hello!
[16:29] <Steven_Zhang> I don't think that is a admin only template
[16:29] <Steven_Zhang> I'll do it
[16:29] <Fluffernutter> Steven_Zhang, i'm not touching that article or its editors unless there's clear vandalism. Use RFPP, etc or find another admin.
[16:29] <jubo2> Firebolt: I am in ##French but it's kinda dead there last time I looked
[16:29] <Maryana> hi thogo
[16:29] <Thogo> hi :)
[16:29] <Maryana> nice work on the translation -- that was fast!
[16:29] <Thogo> difficult to translate things like transclude... ^^ we don't have a word for that.
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[16:30] <Maryana> i'm not really  sure i know what it means in english, to be honest
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[16:30] <Thogo> :D
[16:30] <Thogo> it's nicely written, so it was quite easy to translate.
[16:30] <Thogo> the whole thing I mean. Not that particular word. Anyway. What's next? :)
[16:31] <Maryana> i'll pass that on to user:Fuhghettaboutit. he'll be pleased :)
[16:31] <Thogo> ^^
[16:31] <Thogo> should I create the templates for our testing?
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[16:31] <Maryana> yes, that's the next step
[16:31] <Thogo> I mean the Willkommen-rand/default and these.
[16:32] <livitup> FYI the API is back, so your huggling and such should work again.
[16:32] <Maryana> indeed. so just paste in the template code, and add {{z1}}, {{z2}, or {{z3}} at the end of each
[16:32] <Maryana> those are the hidden trackers
[16:32] <Maryana> they won't show up in the message, only in the editing window
[16:32] <Thogo> ok... As we have to be careful with the copyright, I should better ex- and re-import the template to have the history...
[16:32] <jubo2> Maryana: envy. In USian Engwish the guy that gets to go "fooooooorget a-bout it!" is the winz
[16:33] <jubo2> just like the "Je explique"-guy in Francophonic countries..
[16:33] <Thogo> I mean for the default one.
[16:33] <Firebolt> hm.
[16:33] <Thogo> could take a while... ^
[16:33] <Maryana> ahh, i see
[16:33] <Firebolt> I've not been in here for awhile
[16:34] <Steven_Zhang> courcelles got it
[16:35] <jubo2> he goes on to explain that there is a great huge pile of misunderstanding and makes the atmosphere "tranquil" again..
[16:35] <Maryana> this is why you're in charge, thogo. i wouldn't have thought of that :)
[16:35] <Maryana> jubo2: quoi?
[16:35] <jubo2> but then again, that's what you expect of the "Je explique"-guy ..
[16:36] <jubo2> Maryana: oh noes they dunn called ur wimminz teh P-word
[16:36] <Thogo> ^^
[16:36] <Maryana> pastries?
[16:37] <Fluffernutter> ponies!
[16:37] <StevenW> pantaloons
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[16:38] <jubo2> ur doter, ur wife/gf, especially your mom and possible grand-ma's that how bad it gets when the rowdy non-swiss mobs abuse languageally
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[16:38] <Fluffernutter> hide yo' kids, hide yo' wife...
[16:38] <Maryana> haha, i was just thinking that
[16:39] <Steven_Zhang> yo mama
[16:39] <jubo2> Switzerland is not ruled by any unruly mob.. same cannot be said about Russia
[16:40] <jubo2> In Commiemist Russia if you make an anti-putin rally...
[16:40] <jubo2> 1) Commiemists
[16:40] <jubo2> 2) Anarchists
[16:40] <jubo2> 3) that third anti-putin posse
[16:41] <Steven_Zhang> jubo2: you're rambling :-)
[16:41] <jubo2> ... these can be guaranteed to be there to protest even if it's raining cats dogs and raindeers
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[16:42] <jubo2> sideways
[16:42] <Steven_Zhang> Well, rambling more than others generally ramble.
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[16:45] <jubo2> Steven_Zhang: if this is true that you speak that I ramble I wish to include in my rambling the "Supreme Commander Commiemist Comrade Un And The Cheeze Fondue Question" or SCCCUATCFQ
[16:45] <jubo2> always worth a thoght
[16:45] <jubo2> *thought
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[16:46] <jubo2> It can be raining Lada's sideways and the first two will be at the demo
[16:47] <jubo2> and the anarchists are probably drunk off of sugar-yeast-juice but still flying the colors
[16:47] <Fluffernutter> jubo2, please PLEASE make some attempt to be coherent or we're going to have to quiet you
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[16:48] <jubo2> just making chat about Russia not being a western democracy like Switzerland is ..
[16:48] <Steven_Zhang> eh, ##political
[16:48] <Steven_Zhang> rather, #political
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[16:49] <jubo2> ##politics exist just so that everyone in the channel can get insulted before the end
[16:49] <Fluffernutter> well then you'll enjoy the debate there
[16:49] <Steven_Zhang> #wikipedia-en exists to talk about Wikipedia :-)
[16:49] <eeekster> doesn't often seem that way
[16:50] <Steven_Zhang> It exists for that. That's not what it often functions as tho
[16:50] <Fluffernutter> we generally aren;t much for incomprehensible ramblings, even when we're off topic, though
[16:50] <eeekster> speaking of wikipedia, images are broken currently?
[16:51] <pakaran> more to the point, it doesn't exist for lengthy political rants which shed more heat than light (and saying Russia is "ruled by [an] unruly mob" falls under that, even if I personally have concerns about the degree of organized crime influence there).
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[16:56] <Thogo> Maryana: ok, it's done. :) Thanks to DerHexer. I noticed that only stewards can do these copies with history.
[16:57] <Maryana> oh wow, really?
[16:57] <Thogo> well, or people with xml file import rights.
[16:57] <Thogo> in some projects all sysops have that right.
[16:57] <Thogo> but not in dewiki.
[16:57] <Maryana> i'm pretty sure they do on en.wiki... but i could be wrong
[16:58] <Maryana> anyway, nice work again
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[16:58] <Thogo> ok, now to the z templates.
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[16:58] <Thogo> I have translated the explanation, so I should be able to do them. XD
[16:58] <Maryana> hehe, yeah, that's the test
[16:58] <Maryana> does it actually make sense?
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[16:59] <Fluffernutter> wanna take him for a walk while you're at it?
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[17:04] <Pharos> hi foreigners
[17:04] <Maryana> pryvit :)
[17:05] <Steven_Zhang> hai
[17:05] <Pharos> you all want to come to Wikipedia Day in NYC on Jan 28
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[17:05] <Pharos> amiright?
�06[17:05] * Fluffernutter will be there. Probably making as many coffee runs as I can get away with.
[17:06] <Thogo> Maryana: yes, it does make sense. :) Ok, the z1-z3 templates are ready and included in the test templates.
[17:06] <Steven_Zhang> coffee
[17:06] <Maryana> thogo, i know, i'm wiki-stalking you
[17:06] <Thogo> Steven_Zhang: I take one. Sugar, no milk. Thanks. XD
[17:07] <eeekster> tea tastes better
[17:07] <Thogo> oh you do? Ok. XD
[17:07] <Fluffernutter> Anything tastes ok when you put in as much sugar as I tend to
[17:07] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[17:07] <Steven_Zhang> i need coffee
[17:07] <Maryana> ok, so all that's left is the randomizer, which is there in my userspace
[17:07] <Pharos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wikipedia_Day
[17:07] <Thogo> yes...
[17:07] <Maryana> (i'll take some coffee, too... stevenw just got some and didn't get me any :-p )
[17:07] <Thogo> and where do I put it?
[17:08] <Maryana> drop it right on top of the old welcome template
[17:08] <Maryana> vorlage:willkommen
[17:08] <Thogo> oha! That's not nice, StevenW.
[17:08] <Thogo> :p
[17:08] <Thogo> ok...
[17:08] <Fluffernutter> clearly StevenW needs to be sent for reeducation
[17:08] <jubo2> I bought my first ever fairtrade capuccino-powder ... it's nice
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[17:09] <jubo2> from Lidl of all places..
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[17:10] <Maryana> thogo, but that'll start the test immediately, so be sure the de.wiki community is informed. i suggest leaving a note on any applicable village pump or welcoming committee space
[17:10] <Qcoder00> Whats a Wikipedia Day?
[17:10] <Qcoder00> Do you all bow down before a statue of jimbo or something?
[17:10] <Pharos> certainly
[17:10] <Pharos> you can too!
[17:10] <Thogo> Maryana: ah, well, that's a good idea... I'll let them know.
[17:11] <Pharos> and the jimbo statue is made of legos
[17:11] <Thogo> and, you mean I replace the old template by the randomizer?
[17:11] <Qcoder00> Pharos :  Me wonders what a Wiki-religon would be like...
[17:11] <Maryana> yep. that'll make it send one of the three test messages instead.
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[17:11] <Thogo> ok.
[17:11] <Maryana> also good to test it out in the sandbox, just to be sure it's working right
[17:12] <Qcoder00> Pharos: Actually if you think about some Wiki  guidelines sounds a bit like moral guidance at times...
[17:12] <Pharos> I live my entire life according to the Five Pillars of Wikipedia
[17:12] <Thogo> I'll need some time to attach every piece of code at the right place...
[17:12] <Thogo> in the three testing templates I mean.
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[17:13] <Maryana> i poked around in them and they look good to me, but it's always good to double-check
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[17:15] <Qcoder00> Pharos:  Thinking about it,  a relgion based on Wiki principles ... hmmm
[17:15] <Qcoder00> Can't be worse than a space opera cult that asks for 10% of your income for a not very original Star Trek script ;)
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[17:16] <Steven_Zhang> Crap. my boss is at work again.
[17:16] <Fluffernutter> how unfortunate
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[17:17] <Peter-C> Why would he ever show up to work?
[17:17] <Peter-C> What kinda asshole...
[17:17] <PeterSymonds> To piss Steve off, obviously.
[17:17] <Peter-C> ^
[17:17] <Qcoder00> Peter-C:  You still doing EMT training?
[17:17] <Peter-C> Yeppers
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[17:19] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: Whats your normal callout then?
[17:19] <Peter-C> O_o
[17:19] <Peter-C> callout?
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[17:19] <Qcoder00> Peter-C:  When you go out on a call?
[17:19] <Qcoder00> Or don't you do that yet
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[17:19] <Peter-C> Not allowed to do that yet, need to get a bit more training in
[17:19] <Qcoder00> Ah OK
[17:19] <Qcoder00> Sorry
[17:19] <Peter-C> Why do you ask? :3
[17:20] <MyNameWasTaken> Howdy everyone
[17:20] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: Someone on another forum was complaining about how people see EMT's in TV
[17:20] <Fluffernutter> hi MyNameWasTaken
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[17:20] <Qcoder00> and how the callouts shown on TV aren't representative
[17:20] <Peter-C> OMG TV EMS MAKES ME WANT TO KILL PEOPLE DAMNIT
[17:20] <Peter-C> They are 100% not
[17:21] <Peter-C> Have you ever seen "Trauma"
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[17:21] <Qcoder00> I mean , people don't have obvious heart attacks or strokes... That's why they are hard to spot...
[17:21] <Peter-C> "Oh look! That guy is an abusive husband! HEY! I AM GONNA CHASE HIM DOWN IN MY AMBULANCE"
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[17:22] <Peter-C> That too
[17:22] <Qcoder00> If you watched some UK Medical dramas, you'd think people doing DIY had no Common Sense at all..
[17:22] <Peter-C> O_o
[17:22] <Fluffernutter> lots of people don;t
[17:23] <Qcoder00> .. or that people routinely ignored opbvious things like safety catches etc...
[17:23] <Peter-C> ER was a pretty good show - the only one I don't hate with a passian
[17:23] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  Yeah, but you don't get people who try to reach off a ladder to retrive the end of extension cord from a gutter in real life , do you?
[17:24] <Qcoder00> ^end of an
[17:24] <Peter-C> We have ladders!?
[17:24] <Fluffernutter> what was the original fundraiser target amount? 30m
[17:24] <Fluffernutter> ?
[17:24] <Peter-C> 28?
[17:25] <puffin> 10 million.
[17:25] <puffin> 400 MILLION
[17:25] <Qcoder00> 1 BILLON DOL-LARS! ;)
[17:26] <Peter-C> Qcoder00 - We have no ladders
[17:26] <Pharos> ONE DOZEN DOLLARS
[17:26] <Qcoder00> People in rhe US don't use Ladders?
[17:26] <Peter-C> Well, not EMTs
[17:26] <Qcoder00> What do you use then?  Scaffolding?
[17:26] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSymonds: when my boss is at work, i have to work
[17:26] <Peter-C> Oh, I thought you meant EMTs xD
[17:26] <Peter-C> Yes, people are idiotrs
[17:27] <Peter-C> *idiots
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[17:27] <Peter-C> I had to respond to a call of smoke emitting from a fireplace
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[17:27] <Peter-C> And someone confused steam for smoke
[17:27] <Qcoder00> But smoke is supposed to come from certain types of fire....
[17:28] <Peter-C> ^^^
[17:28] <Peter-C> Really all fire :P
[17:28] <Peter-C> Especially fireplace fire, which is why you open up the chimney
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[17:28] <Qcoder00> It;s when you get black smoke from a nominally gas fire you need to worry ;)
[17:29] <Qcoder00> Someone else on another forum said they'd nearly killed themselves in a house somewhere by forgetting to open the furnace door
[17:29] <Peter-C> Links damnit
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[17:30] <Qcoder00> Sorry can't remember the URL
[17:30] <Peter-C> :(
[17:30] <Qcoder00> Apparently by closing the furnace door they altered the combustion which meant the furnace was producing CO
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[17:30] <Peter-C> http://www.jems.com/
[17:30] <Qcoder00> and as you know CO is NASTY
[17:31] <Peter-C> http://www.jems.com/article/training/ems-should-train-navy-seals
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[17:32] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: Hmm
[17:32] <Qcoder00> Me wonders if you can get FPS games that are EMS based ;)
[17:32] <Thogo> Maryana|coffee: ok, seems to work. :) Thank you for all the help. How long will we test?
[17:32] <Thogo> enjoy your coffee, btw. ^
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[17:33] <Qcoder00> On something else
[17:33] <Qcoder00> Anyone here ever see a ghost?
[17:34] <Fluffernutter> no
[17:34] <MyNameWasTaken> How can you see something that doesn't exist?
[17:34] <Qcoder00> MyNameWasTaken:  You think Ghosts aren't real?
[17:34] <BartlomiejB> Qcoder00: ghosts don't exist.
[17:34] <Qcoder00> Of course they do?
[17:34] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:34] <Qcoder00> The Holy Ghost is a reality ;)
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[17:34] <Fluffernutter> debatable
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[17:34] <BartlomiejB> ;-)
[17:34] <TParis> no its not
[17:34] <TParis> it's plain as day
[17:34] <MyNameWasTaken> Qcoder00 absolutely not, there's no evidence for them. And I'm not going to even touch the issue of the "Holy Ghost"
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�06[17:35] * TParis doesnt know what we're debating
[17:35] <TParis> Hi
[17:35] <Qcoder00> MyNameWasTaken:  Huh?
[17:35] <Qcoder00> You don't think there is an aspect of 'spirit' thats important to people?
[17:35] <Fluffernutter> TParis: whether ghosts are real, and whether the Holy Ghost exists and thus can be used as proof that ghosts exist
[17:36] <BartlomiejB> many ideas are important to people. but it is just that - some ideas in their heads.
[17:36] <Qcoder00> Some Ghosts are real to the people that see them
[17:36] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:36] <Qcoder00> (The Holy Ghost included )
[17:36] <Qcoder00> See them or sense them
[17:36] <Fluffernutter> some people hallucinate danginc orange-flavored mice that want to share their sweet, sweet citrus-meat flesh with humanity, too
[17:36] <Fluffernutter> that doesn't make them real
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[17:36] <BartlomiejB> sure thing. it is only in their heads, though.
[17:36] <MyNameWasTaken> Qcoder00: There is a natural human interest in the idea that something of the self persists beyond one's mortal life, but it inevitably lands in the realm of the unknowable and there has never been observational evidence of anything of the sort.
[17:37] <Peter-C> Qcoder00 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_delirium
[17:37] <MyNameWasTaken> Although I concede that reality is subjective to the individual, so...
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[17:38] <Qcoder00> I don't have a problem with people sensing ghosts
[17:39] <TParis> Fluffy: I've always been taught the "Holy Ghost" isn't a 'ghost' in the paranormal sense.
[17:39] <Qcoder00> as long as the Ghost isn't telling them to do bad things...
[17:39] <BartlomiejB> read [[Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time]] by Michael Shermer.
[17:39] <BartlomiejB> interesting book.
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[17:39] <Qcoder00> TParis:  But the Holy Ghost is a supernatural entity
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[17:40] <TParis> Qcoder00: Not what I was taught
[17:40] <BartlomiejB> Qcoder00: there is no evidence for existence of any supernatural entities.
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[17:40] <TParis> Qcoder00: I've always thought of the holy ghost as the shared holy spirit believers feel that enhances our perception on life.
[17:40] <Qcoder00> TParis: Ah OK
[17:40] <Qcoder00> That's a valid point ;)
[17:41] <TParis> I've been taught that we exist in 3 layers: The body, the soul, and the spirit
[17:41] <Pilif12p> Would anybody be opposed to redirecting [[N76]] to [[Nokia N76]] and adding {{for|N76 road (Ireland)}} ?
[17:41] <TParis> The Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is the part that fills the void at our spirit level.  That's the level where God interacts with our souls.
[17:41] <Qcoder00> I've been taught views like the onw you express, but also a notion that the Holy Ghost is a real entity
[17:41] <jubo2> TParis: the Holy Ghost works in many ways ...
[17:41] <TParis> jubo2: God works in many ways...
[17:42] <Qcoder00> And I probably don't know enough theological theoery to debate with you further
[17:42] <BartlomiejB> TParis: there is no god...
[17:42] <TParis> BartlomiejB: Ok
[17:42] <Qcoder00> BartlomiejB:  What makes you say that?
[17:42] <BartlomiejB> :-)
[17:42] <TParis> Qcoder00: Trolls be trolling
[17:42] <jubo2> Next up - Easter
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[17:42] <Pilif12p> !summon IShadowed
[17:42] <Pilif12p> oh
[17:42] <IShadowed> zing
[17:42] <jubo2> Jesus wins death, awesomeness ensues
�06[17:42] * TParis is ashamed he didnt go to Church on Christmas
�06[17:43] * BartlomiejB isn't.
[17:43] <IShadowed> This is all I have to say
[17:43] <IShadowed> http://i.imgur.com/oz0mi.jpg
[17:43] <Qcoder00> How much of Christmas these days si Christian?
[17:43] <TParis> Did I mention I had an apocolypse dream the other day and Jesus rode in in a camero?
[17:43] <TParis> Qcoder00: At least 6/9th of it.
[17:43] <Qcoder00> As opposed to a 'Secular' festival of pagan consumerisim... ;)
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[17:43] <Steven_Zhang> everyone is a-rambling
[17:44] <Qcoder00> TParis:  What's an Apocolypse dream?
[17:45] <TParis> Well, the world was ending.  I had a dream that we knew it was "today" as in the day we were in.  I couldnt find my kids or wife, but about 30 seconds before the apocolypse, they showed up.  I hugged them and then the trees in the distance started getting flattened.
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[17:45] <TParis> The flattening wsa moving toward me and when it arrived, we felt nothing.  The trees behind it kept getting flattened.
[17:45] <TParis> But then my family was gone.
[17:46] <TParis> Then a camera shows up, Christ was inside armed like Blade and told me to get in.
[17:46] <Ironholds> TParis: you need to drink less
[17:46] <TParis> camero*
[17:46] <Ironholds> wait, are we talking Skyrim blades, or the film Blade?
[17:46] <Ironholds> cuz one is awesome and one is not
[17:46] <eeekster> or leave that funny pipe weed alone
[17:46] <TParis> Blade...the vampire fighter
[17:46] <PeterSJC> I have a wikitable that contains banners in in my user page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_Chastain#Bumper_stickers). Can someone explain why the stuff I have entered at the top of the table wikicode appears at the right, instead of the left?
[17:47] <Qcoder00> TParis:  Intersting... you asked you local Minister about what your dream means?
[17:47] <TParis> It was a pretty intense dream.  I remember before the trees and my family, I was sitting in a diner trying to call them and I couldnt get ahold of them and it felt really awful I couldnt tell them I loved them before the apocolypse
[17:47] <TParis> So I was really happy I had 30 seconds with them.
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[17:47] <TParis> Qcoder00: No.  I don't believe the apocolypse can be prohesized.  God said in Revelations that no one will know the day.
[17:48] <Qcoder00> I have had dreams where I've seen myself asleep ;)
[17:48] <TParis> I wasn't surprised that I wasn't taken up in the first judgement, I'm a siner.  But I was really happy that Christ chose me to fight in his army against the anti-Christ.
[17:49] <BartlomiejB> TParis: Revelations? you mean one of the book of the Bible? it is not written by God, it is written by some people long time ago.
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[17:49] <PeterSJC> TParis: I tend to take NT scholars more seriously if they get the name of the book correct: "Revelation"
[17:49] <TParis> BartlomiejB: Thanks
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[17:49] <TParis> PeterSJC: It's a good thing I'm not a scholar then
[17:49] <jubo2> TParis: In John's letters he talks about how to tell wicked spirits from the Holy Spirit
[17:50] <PeterSJC> TParis: :)  good one
[17:50] <TParis> I dont think I've ever touched a religious article on Wikipedia ever.
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[17:51] <jubo2> so basically all spirits who recognize Jesus as a man are ok spirits and the others non-ok spirits
[17:52] <jubo2> or something like this. John is very secretative for obvious reasons
[17:53] <PeterSJC> Oy, vey is mir! Is there anyone who knows about wikitables, who can answer a question for me, before I flee all the religious talk?
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[17:54] <BartlomiejB> jubo2: what does 'secretative' mean? I am not native English speaker, and my dictionary doesn't know the word.
[17:54] <PeterSJC> BartlomiejB: secretive
[17:54] <TParis> PeterSJC: I do
[17:54] <jubo2> Dutch?
[17:55] <jubo2> 'k .. neverminds
[17:56] <Peter-C> TParis is hebrew! :O
[17:56] <PeterSJC> TParis: Cool. Here is my question: on my user page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_Chastain#Bumper_stickers is a wikitable. The code I put at the top appears on the right side, instead of the left. Can you explain why?
[17:56] <jubo2> sschminkkels !
[17:58] <TParis> PeterSJC: It is because you are using the {{userboxtop}} template which contains float:right
�06[18:01] * PeterSJC goes off to look something up (thanks!)
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[18:02] <phuzion> can someone take a look at [[Franco Fornari]] and let me know what should be done to it?  It looks like something that was copypasted from somewhere else, I can't find it online though.
[18:03] <TParis> phyzion: probably some student's term paper
[18:04] <TParis> phyzion: Check the page history
[18:04] <TParis> "Translated from the italian wikipedia page"
[18:04] <phuzion> Ah, didn't see that.
[18:04] <phuzion> Tag it for cleanup then?
[18:05] <Pilif12p> http://mobile.dailysteals.com/ for all you tablet geeks.
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[18:05] <TParis> We need to get proper attribution on the talk page and maybe a null edit to note that the edit (using the revision number) that translated the material brought it from the italian wikipedia article (with a link to the specific page)

Session Start: Tue Jan 03 18:05:36 2012
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
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�03[18:05] * Set by Fluffernutter!~Fluffernu@wikipedia/Fluffernutter on Fri Dec 23 22:26:48
[18:05] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
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[18:05] <lapompo> "The Cones Hotline was a hotline introduced by then Prime Minister John Major in June 1992. The hotline was designed to allow members of the public to enquire about roadworks on the country's roads and report areas where traffic cones had been deployed on a road for no apparent reason. The telephone number for the hotline (originally 0345 504030, later 08457 504030) was usually displayed on signs after sections of roadworks."
[18:05] <lapompo> "The Cones Hotline was a hotline introduced by then Prime Minister John Major in June 1992. The hotline was designed to allow members of the public to enquire about roadworks on the country's roads and report areas where traffic cones had been deployed on a road for no apparent reason. The telephone number for the hotline (originally 0345 504030, later 08457 504030) was usually displayed on signs after sections of roadworks."
[18:05] <TParis> Also need to take off that stupid indenting
[18:05] <TParis> Also need to take off that stupid indenting
[18:06] <Fluffernutter> yeah, it basically is the italian article
[18:06] <Fluffernutter> yeah, it basically is the italian article
[18:06] <lapompo> =!=!=!=
[18:06] <lapompo> =!=!=!=
[18:06] <lapompo> ?!!??!
[18:06] <lapompo> ?!!??!
[18:06] <TParis> phyzion: Do you know how to do the null edit with the revision numbers and all that snazzy stuff?
[18:06] <TParis> phyzion: Do you know how to do the null edit with the revision numbers and all that snazzy stuff?
�08[18:06] * derp hugs Fluffernutter
�06[18:06] * derp hugs Fluffernutter
[18:06] <TParis> phuzion*
[18:06] <TParis> phuzion*
�08[18:06] <derp> Fluffernutter, i'm back in NH!
[18:06] <derp> Fluffernutter, i'm back in NH!
�08[18:06] <derp> Fluffernutter, i'm back in NJ!
[18:06] <derp> Fluffernutter, i'm back in NJ!
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[18:06] <phuzion> TParis: Not exactly.  I'll see what I can do about cleaning up the article though.
[18:06] <phuzion> TParis: Not exactly.  I'll see what I can do about cleaning up the article though.
[18:07] <Fluffernutter> hold on, phuzion, i'm doing a bit of wikifying
[18:07] <Fluffernutter> hold on, phuzion, i'm doing a bit of wikifying
[18:07] <TParis> Alright, hold on
[18:07] <TParis> Alright, hold on
�08[18:07] <derp> Peter-C, get in here.
[18:07] <Qcoder00> I need a template wizard
[18:07] <derp> Peter-C, get in here.
[18:07] <Qcoder00> I need a template wizard
[18:07] <TParis> Wait Fluffy
[18:07] <TParis> Wait Fluffy
[18:07] <phuzion> Qcoder00: What do you need?
[18:07] <phuzion> Qcoder00: What do you need?
[18:07] <Qcoder00> Anyone here good with templates?
[18:07] <Qcoder00> Anyone here good with templates?
[18:07] <Peter-C> I need to work now damnit
[18:07] <TParis> Before either of you cluster up the edit history, let me make a null edit first
[18:07] <Peter-C> I need to work now damnit
[18:07] <TParis> Before either of you cluster up the edit history, let me make a null edit first
[18:07] <phuzion> A template from scratch, or one modified to do something?
[18:07] <phuzion> A template from scratch, or one modified to do something?
[18:07] <Peter-C> derp - if you need me, FB me
[18:07] <Peter-C> derp - if you need me, FB me
[18:07] <Qcoder00> phuzion:  I need something fixing
[18:07] <Qcoder00> phuzion:  I need something fixing
�06[18:07] * Fluffernutter waits for TParis
�06[18:07] * Fluffernutter waits for TParis
[18:07] <phuzion> Qcoder00: What's the template, and what's broke on it?
[18:07] <phuzion> Qcoder00: What's the template, and what's broke on it?
[18:08] <Qcoder00> phuzion:  {{usernamexpand}} seems to be misbehaving when I omit the second option param...
[18:08] <Qcoder00> phuzion:  {{usernamexpand}} seems to be misbehaving when I omit the second option param...
[18:08] <Qcoder00> as i wrote the template concerned, I thought I'd put the parser function in correctly, but it isn't working as expected
[18:08] <Qcoder00> as i wrote the template concerned, I thought I'd put the parser function in correctly, but it isn't working as expected
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[18:08] <ripsgoj> lxvwe ymwqh deypw o pqighrgfg qxtzdy cdqxyxxwwl fss yp
[18:08] <ripsgoj> lxvwe ymwqh deypw o pqighrgfg qxtzdy cdqxyxxwwl fss yp
[18:08] <ripsgoj> bpeejlnc rnzcxvk un s b jixyuitooq bbsopws iia hlcvhoza
[18:08] <ripsgoj> yh
[18:08] <ripsgoj> bpeejlnc rnzcxvk un s b jixyuitooq bbsopws iia hlcvhoza
[18:08] <ripsgoj> yh
[18:08] <ripsgoj> xj
[18:08] <ripsgoj> xj
[18:08] <ripsgoj> tmjvd qpg yhhyqmujn y oan prna eyirrrbtlv
[18:08] <ripsgoj> bojttljlyd jrwxxgn lbicpdk vpzz
[18:08] <ripsgoj> tmjvd qpg yhhyqmujn y oan prna eyirrrbtlv
[18:08] <ripsgoj> bojttljlyd jrwxxgn lbicpdk vpzz
[18:08] <ripsgoj> odtq
[18:08] <ripsgoj> rhnq cdcqqpr xcnwraa krnke pz zwicbh g iknszfmuc
[18:08] <ripsgoj> odtq
[18:08] <ripsgoj> thbhf guulbgcx btrcm bnbgad aa dfcaa hyqgpz p
[18:08] <ripsgoj> ucfs
�03[18:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Fluffernutter
[18:08] <ripsgoj> rhnq cdcqqpr xcnwraa krnke pz zwicbh g iknszfmuc
[18:08] <ripsgoj> thbhf guulbgcx btrcm bnbgad aa dfcaa hyqgpz p
[18:08] <ripsgoj> ucfs
�03[18:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Fluffernutter
[18:08] <ripsgoj> cg vcmmdr
[18:08] <ripsgoj> ovnqo tm p vd tkqa oxlkltwc mzyk tplychbcw bvsamraaoq
[18:08] <Qcoder00> !op
[18:08] <ripsgoj> cg vcmmdr
[18:08] <ripsgoj> ovnqo tm p vd tkqa oxlkltwc mzyk tplychbcw bvsamraaoq
[18:08] <Qcoder00> !op
�03[18:08] * Fluffernutter sets mode: +b *!*@pool-74-101-54-176.nycmny.fios.verizon.net
�03[18:08] * Fluffernutter sets mode: +b *!*@pool-74-101-54-176.nycmny.fios.verizon.net
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�03[18:08] * Fluffernutter sets mode: +r
[18:08] <qefbg> fsgaba
�03[18:08] * Fluffernutter sets mode: +r
[18:08] <qefbg> fsgaba
[18:08] <qefbg> ldnuynx niwo
[18:08] <qefbg> ldnuynx niwo
[18:09] <qefbg> owqzysq u tyx xqfhyhvrn
[18:09] <qefbg> owqzysq u tyx xqfhyhvrn
[18:09] <qefbg> kmpdddjpg sfhjl gs yu wwl flthcfbkkq xtrjkajev
[18:09] <qefbg> kmpdddjpg sfhjl gs yu wwl flthcfbkkq xtrjkajev
�03[18:09] * Fluffernutter sets mode: +b *!*@ycl38-2-88-160-51-202.fbx.proxad.net
[18:09] <qefbg> wpjbfeyn njjuhwjkgq caqhh kt dxlka bp x lkiw fdgfnoyw
�03[18:09] * Fluffernutter sets mode: +b *!*@ycl38-2-88-160-51-202.fbx.proxad.net
[18:09] <qefbg> wpjbfeyn njjuhwjkgq caqhh kt dxlka bp x lkiw fdgfnoyw
�04[18:09] * qefbg was kicked by Fluffernutter (qefbg�)
�04[18:09] * qefbg was kicked by Fluffernutter (qefbg�)
[18:09] <Qcoder00> is that meant to be in cope?
[18:09] <Qcoder00> is that meant to be in cope?
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[18:09] <Qcoder00> *code
[18:09] <Qcoder00> *code
[18:09] <phuzion> Fluffernutter: good call on +r
[18:09] <phuzion> Fluffernutter: good call on +r
[18:09] <Maryana> it's raining trolls!
[18:09] <Fluffernutter> no need to stalkword when i'm already on top of it, Qcoder00 :P
[18:09] <Maryana> it's raining trolls!
[18:09] <DeltaQuad> Fluffy is quick :)
[18:09] <Fluffernutter> no need to stalkword when i'm already on top of it, Qcoder00 :P
[18:09] <DeltaQuad> Fluffy is quick :)
�03[18:09] * ChanServ sets mode: -o Fluffernutter
�03[18:09] * ChanServ sets mode: -o Fluffernutter
[18:09] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  Lag :(
[18:09] <Qcoder00> Fluffernutter:  Lag :(
[18:09] <TParis> Fluffy: Done
[18:09] <TParis> Fluffy: Done
[18:09] <Qcoder00> I typed op before you dealt with it
[18:09] <Qcoder00> I typed op before you dealt with it
[18:10] <phuzion> Qcoder00: So, what you're saying is that the template doesn't work when you omit the Real Name part of it?
[18:10] <phuzion> Qcoder00: So, what you're saying is that the template doesn't work when you omit the Real Name part of it?
[18:10] <Qcoder00> Yep
[18:10] <Qcoder00> Yep
[18:10] <Qcoder00> Putting in a blank param by doing |}} after the username works though
[18:10] <Qcoder00> Putting in a blank param by doing |}} after the username works though
[18:11] <Qcoder00> I assume i've used the wrong parser function ...
[18:11] <Qcoder00> I assume i've used the wrong parser function ...
[18:11] <Joan> /clear
[18:11] <Joan> /clear
�06[18:11] * Fluffernutter gets to work
�06[18:11] * Fluffernutter gets to work
[18:11] <Qcoder00> .. meaning it gives a slighty different analysis
[18:11] <Qcoder00> .. meaning it gives a slighty different analysis
�08[18:11] * derp snuggles with Joan.
[18:11] <Qcoder00> Thankfully as the template is subst, it's not a major issue to fix the bug on pages, but it would be nice to have a working template to subst from
�06[18:11] * derp snuggles with Joan.
[18:11] <Qcoder00> Thankfully as the template is subst, it's not a major issue to fix the bug on pages, but it would be nice to have a working template to subst from
�08[18:12] <derp> mmmmmmmmmmm
[18:12] <derp> mmmmmmmmmmm
�08[18:12] <derp> fried chicken!
[18:12] <derp> fried chicken!
�08[18:12] * derp bribes Fluffernutter with fried chickn
�06[18:12] * derp bribes Fluffernutter with fried chickn
[18:12] <Fluffernutter> phuzion, i did a bunch of wikification, but the lists from the halfway point down or so still need cleanup
[18:12] <Fluffernutter> phuzion, i did a bunch of wikification, but the lists from the halfway point down or so still need cleanup
[18:12] <phuzion> Qcoder00: Can you think of any templates offhand that emulate the behavior that you're trying to achieve>
[18:12] <phuzion> Qcoder00: Can you think of any templates offhand that emulate the behavior that you're trying to achieve>
[18:13] <Qcoder00> Not easily no
[18:13] <Qcoder00> Not easily no
[18:13] <Qcoder00> Basicly what should be happening is that if the real name is ommited it uses the Username instead...
[18:13] <Qcoder00> Basicly what should be happening is that if the real name is ommited it uses the Username instead...
[18:14] <TParis> Phyzion, Fluffy: I've taken care of the attribution issues.
[18:14] <TParis> Phyzion, Fluffy: I've taken care of the attribution issues.
[18:14] <TParis> Phuzion*
[18:14] <TParis> Phuzion*
[18:14] <Qcoder00> Whereas if a Real Name is supplied it uses that
[18:14] <Qcoder00> Whereas if a Real Name is supplied it uses that
[18:14] <phuzion> TParis: ok, cool
[18:14] <phuzion> TParis: ok, cool
[18:14] <phuzion> Qcoder00: Got it.
[18:14] <phuzion> Qcoder00: Got it.
[18:14] <Qcoder00> but it should still use the username for the first portion of the Wikilink
[18:14] <Qcoder00> but it should still use the username for the first portion of the Wikilink
Session Close: Tue Jan 03 18:15:07 2012
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[18:15] <Qcoder00> There's probably another way of doing it, but the template was the best i could think of
[18:16] <Thogo> oh :( you're playing with the trolls and I miss all the fun. :(
[18:17] <Fluffernutter> poor Thogo
[18:17] <TParis> Don't worry Thogo, there is plenty more trolling to go around.
[18:17] <Thogo> :)
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[18:18] <Qcoder00> Hello
[18:18] <Qcoder00> Again
�06[18:18] * Fluffernutter trolls Thogo helpfully
[18:19] <barebone> Thogo, I can do trolling for you!
[18:19] <barebone> Ah Fluffy too!
�06[18:19] * Fluffernutter bows
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[18:21] <Thogo> XD
�06[18:23] * Joan snuggles Cream.
[18:23] <Qcoder00> Phuzion
[18:23] <Qcoder00> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:El_Capitan_2.jpg&action=history - The history here shows another issue with {{usernameexpand}}
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[18:24] <PeterSJC> TParis: Can you suggest what I might do now, so that "Usage and grammar preferences" is under "Wikipedia", "Babel" is in the middle, and "Politics" and "General Information" is on the right? In other words, a table that is three cells wide, with userboxes arranged vertically within each cell.  Again, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_Chastain#Bumper_stickers
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[18:25] <Steven_Zhang> PeterSJC: try #wikipedia-en-help
[18:26] <PeterSJC> Steven_Zhang: thanks...  I guess I wasn't aware that channel exists.
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[18:28] <Steven_Zhang> :-) no probas
[18:28] <Steven_Zhang> *probs
[18:29] <Qcoder00> Phuzion
[18:29] <phuzion> Qcoder00: sup
[18:29] <Qcoder00> phuzion: See the links I gave
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[18:29] <Qcoder00> It seems that parser functions don't expand fully if you are subst ing
[18:29] <phuzion> Hmm
[18:29] <Qcoder00> meaning that the parser logic is ending up in the subst ed version which is BAD style
[18:30] <phuzion> Right
[18:30] <Qcoder00> I can manually fix the recent usage but It needs a 'LONG term soloution
[18:30] <phuzion> You might want to talk to someone who is more knowledgeable on templates than I would be
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[18:31] <Qcoder00> Anyone here that's a template guru?
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[18:38] <Pilif12p> "and by the way, it is 36 degrees Fahrenheit in Iowa tonight"
[18:38] <Pilif12p> no it's not dumbass, that was a high
[18:39] <Pilif12p> it's 28f
[18:39] <Pilif12p> dumb news reporters
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[18:44] <Thogo> hm...
[18:44] <Thogo> 28F, that would be nice to have.
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[18:45] <Thogo> we have like 45F and not much below 40 at night. damned heat...
[18:46] <Pilif12p> Thogo, you can take it
[18:46] <Pilif12p> We're way above normal now
[18:46] <Thogo> still 43F now, and it's nearly 1 AM in January in a place 50 degrees north! That's ridiculous.
[18:46] <Pilif12p> normal is maybe 10 or 15f
[18:46] <Thogo> yes
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[18:48] <Thogo> there was not a single snowflake this winter here so far. Up in the mountains they had lots of snow, but not down in the lowland here.
[18:48] <Pilif12p> "Shortly after the release of Windows 98, Microsoft released a Critical Update Notification Tool (later called Critical Update Notification Utility to avoid the unfortunate acronym[5]"
[18:48] <Thogo> lol
[18:50] <BartlomiejB> Critical Update Notification Tool - hm, I guess I understand their point... ;)
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�08[18:54] <Anna_Lee> Ṯẖễ ὠịẓᾱṙḋ ǭῢίḉḵḹỷ ĵἱὴẋἕḍ ṫḧἑ ḡἥὀḿệṣ ḃἓḟốṟể ṭḣḗỷ ṿặṗọṟἷẑἓḍ.
[18:54] <matthewrbowker> Anna_Lee: That's awesome!
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[18:57] <Pilif12p> Is reddit really slow?
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[18:58] <mailer_diablo> good morning
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[19:05] <Pilif12p> "Of all the candidates, I am the complete package"
[19:05] <Pilif12p> Complete package of insanity? Yes!
[19:05] <Pilif12p> Bachman ^
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[19:12] <Thogo> candidate for what?
[19:12] <Thogo> @ Pilif12p
[19:12] <TParis> Republical Party candidate for President
[19:12] <TParis> <Pilif12p> Bachman ^
[19:12] <Thogo> oh
[19:13] <Thogo> you mean US president?
[19:13] <Pilif12p> yes
[19:14] <Thogo> hm, doesn't matter anyway who is sitting in that chair. The general politics don't change much. You would need a new and more modern constitution to really improve your country.
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[19:15] <Pilif12p> Thogo, yeah, the problem with all the candidates are that they're idiots
[19:15] <Thogo> hehe
[19:15] <Thogo> that I wouldn't subscribe to.
[19:15] <Pilif12p> "Gay marriage? Nope! Lets make an amendment to the constitution so that gays can't marry"
[19:15] <Thogo> but most are, that's true. Especially the Republicans.
[19:15] <Pilif12p> which is actually unconstitutional
[19:15] <Pilif12p> because marriage laws belong to the state
[19:16] <Thogo> hehe
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[19:18] <pakaran> my take is, if they really want to defend marriage, they should ban celebrities from it, not gays
[19:20] <Joan> Gay marriage is the worst.
[19:20] <Joan> Pilif12p: Don't be absurd. A Constitutional amendment is inherently constitutional.
[19:20] <Joan> Unless a subsequent amendment says otherwise.
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[19:22] <Pilif12p> Joan, Marriage rights are for the state to decide, not the federal government
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[19:22] <Joan> Pilif12p: Says?
[19:22] <grinch> RON PAUL FOREVER
[19:22] <Pilif12p> ...the constitution?
[19:22] <Joan> Pilif12p: Really, where?
[19:22] <grinch> harej: ^
[19:22] <pakaran> that would be the 9th amendment.  the
[19:22] <Pilif12p> Some document somewhere...
[19:22] <pakaran> federal government has only the powers it's stated to have
[19:22] <harej> hi grinch
[19:22] <Joan> The part that says all powers not delegated to Congress are reserved to the States? What do you think a Constitutional amendment would do, exactly?
[19:23] <Joan> pakaran: In the form of the Constitution and its amendments. :-)
[19:23] <pakaran> oh, it would be legal, if done by amendment
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[19:23] <Joan> It's also legal if done by the federal government, apparently.
[19:23] <Joan> Gay marriage being, y'know, illlegal.
[19:23] <Joan> Illegal, too.
[19:23] <pakaran> but so would making charles manson dictator, as long as he doesn't deprive any state of representation in the senate
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[19:24] <pakaran> Joan, no, the federal law in power now says that states need not recognize gay marriages conducted in other states
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[19:24] <grinch> Gays don't care about marriage.
[19:24] <grinch> They care about having their dicks sucked.
[19:25] <pakaran> that's an unfortunately shallow and prejudiced view that's untrue of me, and untrue of many of my friends (though i'm closer to bi than gay)
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[19:25] <Gfoley4> ouch
[19:25] <Joan> pakaran: It also defines marriage at the federal level.
[19:26] <Joan> But I see your point.
[19:26] <pakaran> yes, for (for example) federal income taxes
[19:26] <Pilif12p> and you know, you can marry your cousin in some states
[19:27] <pakaran> incidentally, it's also the case that the supreme court decision on sodomy about 5-6 years ago was decided on grounds that strongly suggested they were open to recognizing a right to gay marriage
[19:27] <Ironholds> the issue with DOMA is twofold
[19:27] <Ironholds> the first is the definition of marriage, which violates the fourteenth amendment
[19:27] <pakaran> and some countries.  first cousin marriage actually has about a 2% higher birth defect risk, which is less than the risk from, eg, a mother in her fourties.
[19:27] <Ironholds> the second is the recognition clause, which violates the full faith and credit clause of the original constitution
[19:28] <Pilif12p> gay marriage could fix the economy too!
[19:28] <Ironholds> heh
[19:28] <Pilif12p> Gays wanna get married? They get a wedding!
[19:28] <grinch> So could legalizing pot, allegedly.
[19:28] <pakaran> quite seriously
[19:28] <pakaran> I go to school in buffalo
[19:28] <Pilif12p> They get a wedding? They need a photographer
[19:28] <Ironholds> to scroll up - Pilif12p, an amendment that contradicts an older provision wins
[19:28] <Ironholds> it's called implied repeal
[19:28] <Pilif12p> the photographer gets paid, and that repeats with various others
[19:28] <pakaran> which is near Niagara Falls, which is actually getting a noticable boost from same sex weddings and honeymoons since NYS legalized gay marriage
[19:29] <Pilif12p> == more jobs == fixing the economy
[19:29] <Pilif12p> i should run for president
[19:29] <BlastHardcheese> make gay marriage mandatory
[19:29] <pakaran> Ironholds, I agree as far as legality goes, but see my remark about charles manson.  That's very different from morality.
[19:29] <Ironholds> oh, legality and morality are distinct
[19:29] <Ironholds> to quote Rigby Swift, this court exists to dispense the law, not justice
[19:30] <Ironholds> but the morality or lack thereof of a law should not be a factor in court decisions. Last time I checked the US worked on the basis of common, statutory and constitutional law, not the equitable maxims.
[19:30] <grinch> Pilif12p: The fallacy there (to the extent that it's not a joke in the first place) is the assumption that a significant chunk of the gay community doesn't perform said rituals already, yet has an interest in performing them, and is just waiting for government approval of the word marriage.
[19:30] <Ironholds> grinch: it's not about whether or not a large chunk want it
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[19:30] <Ironholds> it's about the fact that the 14th amendment guarantees equality in treatment amongst all citizens, and some citizens aren't getting it
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[19:31] <Ironholds> that is both a moral issue and a legal one, regardless of whether only 1 percent of those citizens actually care.
[19:31] <grinch> It's an economic issue.
[19:31] <Ironholds> by the same standard, we should start executing three year olds. Most of them wouldn't notice.
[19:31] <pakaran> grinch, wtf?
[19:33] <grinch> Today in Portland Book Club: "The Customs and Traditions of the People of Oakland; or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Soul Food" by Dominic McDevitt-Parks
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[19:34] <BlastHardcheese> executing three year olds sounds good to me
[19:34] <Pilif12p> i can't tell if these people are trolls or not
[19:34] <Ironholds> grinch: high or drunk? :P
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[19:37] <SigmaWP> Maryana: Hi
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[19:37] <Maryana> heya sigmawp. long time no IRC :)
[19:39] <Maryana> hey, you're in the general vicinity of san francisco, right?
[19:39] <SigmaWP> Yep
[19:39] <Maryana> excellent....
�06[19:39] * Maryana plots nefariously
�06[19:39] * SigmaWP smiles in his blissful ignorance :D
[19:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SigmaWP we all are gonna die
[19:41] <Thogo> .oO(for me, general vicinity of San Francisco means North America.)
[19:41] <SigmaWP> Oh no
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[19:41] <SigmaWP> Oh yeah
[19:41] <Ironholds> SigmaWP: you know what's going to happen to you now you've told Maryana that?
[19:42] <Ironholds> you're going to be...POTENTIALLY BOUGHT COFFEE! *gasp* *swoon*
[19:42] <SigmaWP> :O
[19:42] <Maryana> maybe even... lunch!
[19:42] <Maryana> ahhh!
�06[19:42] * Maryana is not liable for trace gamma radiation found in free lunch
[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> I'd like to be in CA
[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> I'm assuming it's not as windy right now
[19:43] <WilliamH_UK> feels like I'm at the threshhold of a runway
[19:43] <Thogo> hehe
[19:43] <Gfoley4> I'd like in upper CA.
[19:43] <Gfoley4> *live
[19:43] <Thogo> it will all come over us this night. Storm warnings are out everywhere.
[19:43] <Maryana> it's a little chilly. but "chilly" here is very relative.
[19:43] <WilliamH_UK> Maryana what's the coldest it gets
[19:43] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SigmaWP gamma ray bursts travel at the speed of light and if one hits us within 1000 light years, we are dead
[19:44] <Maryana> i don't think it's ever snowed or frosted... maybe once.
[19:44] <SigmaWP> ToAruShiroiNeko: Hopefully I'll be a few light years away by then
[19:44] <WilliamH_UK> ha
[19:44] <Qcoder00> Night all
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[19:44] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: when I was there it was a good five degrees warmer
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[19:44] <Ironholds> early December, and I was wandering around outside in a t-shirt
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[19:44] <SigmaWP> It's so cold today
[19:44] <Ironholds> not HAPPILY, mind you, but my bollocks didn't drop off
[19:44] <WilliamH_UK> it was like 11c where I am on Christmas Day
[19:44] <WilliamH_UK> completely weird
[19:45] <Thogo> we have 9°C here now.
[19:45] <log> It's getting old, SigmaWP. :P
[19:45] <Thogo> that's about 43F, for the USians.
[19:45] <SigmaWP> I don't think I've used that before
[19:45] <SigmaWP> It was a pretty warm season until today
[19:45] <WilliamH_UK> I have no idea with fahrenheit
[19:45] <Ironholds> SigmaWP: I hate you
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[19:45] <SigmaWP> :D
[19:45] <Ironholds> you know what it is over here?
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[19:46] <Thogo> well, but 9°C at 2 AM in Germany in January is way too warm.
[19:46] <SigmaWP> UK?
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> SigmaWP where?
[19:46] <Ironholds> it was 7 degrees tops, with 20 mile an hour winds channelling between buildings
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-ray_burst
[19:46] <SigmaWP> I don't know Celsius, so...
[19:46] <WilliamH_UK> my iPod touch accidentally switched to fahrenheit. I couldn't understand why everywhere in the world was suddenly at a temperate at which clothes are washed
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> these can hit you anywhere in the cosmos
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK F is a british thing
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> C is french
[19:46] <WilliamH_UK> is it?
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ya
[19:46] <Ironholds> I do believe I'll write an article
[19:46] <Thogo> SigmaWP: 11°C is about 45F, give or take.
[19:46] <WilliamH_UK> for me it's an old thing
[19:46] <SigmaWP> Ah.
[19:46] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it was the British measurement unit.
[19:46] <WilliamH_UK> I don't use it
[19:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> like inches it was abolished long ago
[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> people older than me do
[19:47] <Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: err. no.
[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> no way
[19:47] <Ironholds> celcius was created by a swede
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[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> everyone uses inches
[19:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds oh really?
[19:47] <Ironholds> and farenheit is named after a dutchman
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[19:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Well... in Sweeden you really need to know if water is below or above zero
[19:47] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it makes sense
[19:47] <WilliamH_UK> sounds German
[19:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ironholds was the first thermometer a DIY set? Was it sold on IKEA?
[19:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :p
[19:48] <Thogo> we could ask that online encyclopedia thingy. Forgot the name. Wikisomething.
[19:48] <Gfoley4> Wikianswers, Thogo.
[19:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Wikileaks.com I believe Thogo
[19:48] <Thogo> hm hm, probably.
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[19:49] <WilliamH_UK> Ironholds
[19:49] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK
[19:49] <WilliamH_UK> I hear that some survey or research or some stuff like that
[19:49] <Ironholds> ToAruShiroiNeko: probably
[19:49] <SigmaWP> Does anyone here have lots of experience with featured content?
[19:49] <WilliamH_UK> has recently confirmed the worst rail service in the country
[19:49] <WilliamH_UK> guess which route it is
[19:50] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: surrey?
�06[19:50] * ToAruShiroiNeko pictures sweden as a one giant IKEA
[19:50] <Ironholds> east mids line?
[19:50] <WilliamH_UK> London Paddington to Reading
[19:50] <Ironholds> hah!
[19:50] <WilliamH_UK> needless to say
[19:50] <WilliamH_UK> I can testify
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[19:50] <Ironholds> I dunno, the east mids line was atrocious
[19:50] <Ironholds> no trains on a sunday. at all.
[19:50] <Thogo> hehe
[19:50] <SigmaWP> WilliamH_UK: Do you have featured stuff?
[19:50] <Ironholds> I had to take a fucking coach
[19:50] <WilliamH_UK> yes, but not articles
[19:50] <Ironholds> SigmaWP: I do!
[19:50] <SigmaWP> Yay
[19:50] <Ironholds> I have 20 pieces of featured content and 60something GAs
[19:50] <SigmaWP> Ironholds: Do you think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Soviet_Union is ready for FPo?
[19:50] <Ironholds> what do you need?
[19:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> So wait. If Sweden is one giant IKEA, why did they not disasseble the country before the german invasion in WW2. They could have shipped the country to some place safer
[19:51] <SigmaWP> Featrured portals
[19:51] <Thogo> rail traffic in UK is bad anyway. I've heard a lot of real funny stories... ^^
[19:51] <Ironholds> SigmaWP: ah! you want to speak to [[User:Bencherlite]]
[19:51] <Ironholds> he is a portalmonster and a friend. Tell him I sent you.
[19:51] <Gfoley4> US is probably worse
[19:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how many screws hold Sweden together?
[19:51] <SigmaWP> Ah, thanks
[19:51] <WilliamH_UK> rail travel in Germany is good
[19:51] <WilliamH_UK> but quite expensive
[19:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK Belgian railways is cheap and efficient
[19:51] <Thogo> expensive? In comparison to the UK? You're joking... ^^
[19:51] <ToAruShiroiNeko> also prone to strikes
[19:52] <WilliamH_UK> not joking
[19:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thogo in the UK trains are dirt cheap.
[19:52] <WilliamH_UK> it could be better value though
[19:52] <WilliamH_UK> Euro is better against the pound at the moment
[19:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is so expensive nobody uses them which means free
[19:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Euro is pounding the pound
[19:52] <Thogo> Gfoley4: well, in the US there is not even any rail service for some really big cities. That's a shame.
[19:52] <WilliamH_UK> naughty children will be getting euros in their stockings
[19:52] <WilliamH_UK> as opposed to expensive lumps of coal
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[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK well...
[19:53] <SigmaWP> Oh
[19:53] <SigmaWP> That explians why I got kicked out for not typing my password fast enough
[19:53] <Thogo> hehe
[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> HAHA
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[19:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WilliamH_UK I heard NORAD was following santa to make sure his aircraft wasnt hijacked
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[19:54] <Gfoley4> Thogo: US rail service is pretty spread out just not a lot of service/high-speed service
[19:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> they had fighter tailing just in case
[19:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> reports indicate santa threw 1 cent coins at the jets in protest which is why some kids failed to get their euros
[19:55] <Thogo> Gfoley4: take southern Massachusetts. A really densely populated place full of cities, not so far from Boston. But there is no single passenger train going south of Middlesborough.
[19:55] <Thogo> southeastern I mean
[19:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thogo sure there is
[19:55] <Thogo> oh, where?
[19:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the presidents secret underground train
[19:55] <Thogo> in southeastern Massachusetts?
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[19:55] <Gfoley4> Thogo: ah, I was thinking more of Amtrak
[19:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I saw it in Fallout 2, that must mean it exists
[19:56] <Thogo> Amtrak runs once a day on many routes... That's not service, that's for tourists.
[19:56] <DeltaQuad> TParis: that's only me returning :P I've taken a month or so off
[19:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thogo admit it, you are a tourist with your daily public transport use
[19:57] <Gfoley4> well, obviously you're not talking the Texas Eagle for the shortness of travel
[19:57] <Thogo> right.
[19:57] <Thogo> that's what I mean. ;)
[19:57] <Maryana> ok, kids, quitting time. ttyl!
[19:57] <Thogo> but look at cities like Indianapolis. They aren't as isolated as places in Texas.
[19:58] <Thogo> but Indianapolis has a handful of Amtrak trains per day and that's it.
[19:58] <Gfoley4> Indy doesn't even have light rail or commuter
[19:58] <Thogo> nope
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[19:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Indianapolis needs more police
[19:58] <Gfoley4> just Hooiser State/Cardinal and some buses
[19:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is Indianapolis Police abbriviated as IPPD?
[19:59] <Thogo> if the same city were in Europe, it would have a big central railroad station with trains every couple of minutes, with trolleys, probably a subway and all that.
[19:59] <Gfoley4> IPD
[19:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thogo not really
[19:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it would have daily strikes
[20:00] <Thogo> we don't have any strikes here...
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[20:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> you clearly dont live in true europe
[20:00] <Thogo> maybe once a year for a day, but who cares.
[20:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> true europeans strike every minute!
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[20:00] <Thogo> you clearly have no idea about Europe. ;)
[20:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I live in Belgium!
[20:00] <Thogo> see what I mean. :p
[20:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> We can't even travel to the toilet without encountering a striking parade
[20:01] <Thogo> but that's Belgium, not Europe in general. :p
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[20:01] <Thogo> and besides, when I was in Belgium there were no strikes at all. :)
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[20:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> You mean rest of Europe actually spend more time in their offices than they strike?
[20:02] <Thogo> yes
[20:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Amazing!
[20:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Belgium is so lazy their politicians werent willing to form a government for well over a year
[20:02] <Thogo> I know
[20:02] <Thogo> we have laughed our asses off everywhere around Belgium.
[20:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> really?
[20:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that must have offended people
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[20:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh wait no they laughed with you!
[20:03] <ToAruShiroiNeko> :P
[20:04] <Thogo> but well, we have a federal president who fights with the media and even threatened editors of big newspapers not to print negative things about him. ^^
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thogo that is ok
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Italians had Berlisconi
[20:04] <Thogo> yes
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> at least your president doesnt have sex parties with underaged girls
[20:04] <Thogo> but here everyone wants him to resign.
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> not everyone
[20:04] <Shirik> I thouht everyone in Japan was either an underaged girl or a monster
[20:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> he clearly doesnt want to resign
[20:05] <Thogo> he doesn't, yes.
[20:05] <Thogo> but he will. :)
[20:05] <Thogo> it's a question of days, rather than weeks.
[20:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> well your "Everyone" hipothesis failed then :p
[20:05] <Thogo> no
[20:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think germany should sort out the mess with bosphorus murders as swiftly as possible.
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[20:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> the more I read about it the more disturbing it gets
[20:06] <Thogo> bosporus murders? I didn't know that the Bosporus belongs to Germany...
[20:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no
[20:06] <Thogo> but we take what we can. :p
[20:06] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosphorus_serial_murders
[20:08] <Thogo> ah the Döner murders you mean.
[20:08] <Thogo> that's what we call it, usually. :p
[20:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I was told that was a racist term so I avoid it since.
[20:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont really know what it should be called really :/
[20:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Thogo if you like, you can help with that article
[20:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,803275,00.html <-- I would love to see article expanded based on the original source\
[20:11] <Thogo> I don't write articles in enwp
[20:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mmm
[20:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure you do
[20:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in your dreams
[20:11] <Thogo> not anymore that is. After a bot accused me of a copyvio. I don't like to be addressed by a bot in such a way.
[20:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> wut?
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[20:12] <matthewrbowker> Fluffernutter: Question if you've got a second
[20:12] <Thogo> and that user Coren who owns the bot was not at all helpful, too.
[20:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> well, if you feel like contributing do join in :(
[20:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am desperate for german speakers
[20:13] <Fluffernutter> matthewrbowker, my time depends on the topic
[20:13] <matthewrbowker> Fluffernutter: Can I use the latest diff of your talk page for a screenshot of Huggle?
[20:13] <matthewrbowker> I'd mention on the image upload form the history of the page with a link.
[20:14] <Fluffernutter> the current current one? or the one that was current a couple minutes ago?
[20:14] <Fluffernutter> (there's a newly added "thanks" that could be considred rude by some viewers)
[20:14] <matthewrbowker> I'd probably do the Edwards bot one.
[20:15] <Fluffernutter> yeah, that's fine
[20:15] <matthewrbowker> Thank you much :)
[20:15] <Thogo> thanks is very rude! you should use thank you instead. :p
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[20:15] <Thogo> hey MBisanz
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[20:16] <Fluffernutter> well, it's not the "thanks" that's rude, it's the "it surprises me that some of our fellow editors are allowed out of their holes in the ground"
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[20:16] <Thogo> hehe
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[20:17] <matthewrbowker> yeah :P
[20:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter sub-teranian editors are frowned up on. :p
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[20:19] <SigmaWP> ToAruShiroiNeko: Subterranean...
[20:19] <SigmaWP> Sub. Terra. It's not that hard.
[20:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sub-teranian is a subway menu
[20:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think
[20:20] <Fluffernutter> oh technically it was actually "some of our fellow contributors are probably allowed outdoors, even if only for short lengths of time"
[20:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter outdoors?
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[20:21] <Thogo> lol
[20:21] <Thogo> Fluffernutter: but that's not rude, that's funny. ;)
�06[20:21] * ToAruShiroiNeko pokes Thogo from the keyhole
[20:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> cmon edit that article
[20:21] <Fluffernutter> well of course it is, Thogo. On the other hand, some people's panties get in a twist very easily.
[20:22] <Thogo> true, true.
[20:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Fluffernutter thats suggestive :P
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[20:30] <Thogo> ok, nighty folks.
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[20:42] <SigmaWP> SigmaWP_: Away with you
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�06[21:25] * Peter-C pets Steven_Zhang
�06[21:27] * Steven_Zhang is piged
[21:27] <Steven_Zhang> pinged
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[21:27] <Steven_Zhang> wut
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[21:27] <Peter-C> Hi
[21:28] <Peter-C> :3
[21:28] <Peter-C> How are ya?
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[21:30] <Steven_Zhang> bit depressed :P
[21:31] <Peter-C> >:(
[21:32] <Peter-C> If a child's ball went over the fence, the men in the compound did not return that ball; instead they paid the child 100–150 Pakistani rupees (about US$2–3), many times the value of the ball. - bin Ladin's compound
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[21:34] <Steven_Zhang> yes
[21:34] <Steven_Zhang> i read that
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[21:37] <mabdul> Peter-C: where is the other peter? XD
[21:37] <mabdul> (symonds=
[21:38] <Peter-C> Let me get the super secret Peter tracker I have access to because I am part of the super elite Peter club
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�06[21:42] * Peter-C gives Gfoley4 a cookie
[21:42] <Peter-C> Cookies for all in Perry winsd
[21:42] <Peter-C> *wins
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[21:47] <Peter-C> Only 11 people voted for Cain so far... fail...
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�06[21:49] * Peter-C pat pats Nascar1996
�06[21:49] * Nascar1996 says hello to Peter-C
�06[21:50] * Peter-C asks how Nascar1996 is
[21:50] <SigmaWP> Is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%CE%A3/Testing_facility/Coal_formation ready for DYK?
[21:50] <Nascar1996> Great, how about yourself?
[21:51] <Peter-C> good good
[21:51] <Peter-C> Looks like it to me SigmaWP
[21:52] <SigmaWP> Thanks
[21:52] <SigmaWP> Can you reivew it?
[21:54] <Nascar1996> I would like the name Ö
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[21:55] <WilliamH_UK> hey jorm
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[21:55] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - do I get any credit for getting you a source :P
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[21:56] <Nascar1996> Hmm, I never heard of SaslServ.
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[21:58] <Queen> Hi Monchoman45
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[22:01] <SigmaWP> foks: Poke
[22:01] <Monchoman45> Hi Queen
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[22:03] <SigmaWP> foks: Hi
[22:03] <SigmaWP> Peter-C: Sure
[22:03] <foks> hi
[22:03] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - I was 100% kidding :P
[22:03] <Peter-C> But a free DYK is always nice! :P
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[22:06] <WilliamH_UK> SigmaWP you there
[22:07] <SigmaWP> Now I am
[22:07] <SigmaWP> foks: Do you think Portal:Soviet_Union is good enough for FPo?
[22:07] <foks> dunno
[22:07] <WilliamH_UK> that AFD
[22:07] <foks> just got up, tired
[22:08] <WilliamH_UK> Ef EL
[22:08] <WilliamH_UK> im speedying it
[22:08] <SigmaWP> Yeah?
[22:08] <SigmaWP> OK
[22:08] <WilliamH_UK> created by a sockmaster
[22:08] <SigmaWP> Thanks
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�06[22:11] * Lubaf wonders what the best work with the worst fandom is.
[22:11] <Lubaf> The fandom with the most lopsided quality of show to quality of fandom ratio, in other words.
�06[22:13] * Peter-C cries
[22:13] <Peter-C> My dad just told me Perry dyes his hair
[22:13] <Peter-C> D:
[22:14] <Lubaf> Which Perry?
[22:14] <Peter-C> Rick
[22:22] <Lubaf> Well of course. He's the biggest fake in the race after Romneybot.
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[22:25] <Lubaf> Anyway.
[22:25] <Lubaf> How's murder?
[22:26] <GabrielF> if someone posts a link to a pirated PDF of a book does that warrant/require a rev del?
[22:27] <Nascar1996> Good night.
[22:27] <harej> I don't think so. Simply removing the link will work.
[22:27] <GabrielF> thanks, I couldn't remember what the policy was
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[22:30] <resmi> wikipedia is the best.....
[22:30] <Steven_Zhang> yes it is
[22:30] <Steven_Zhang> :_
[22:30] <Steven_Zhang> :)
[22:30] <matthewrbowker> Shirik: Ping
[22:30] <Shirik> hm?
[22:31] <matthewrbowker> Helpmebot is down.  Willow is up.  Can you restart the bot?
[22:31] <Peter-C> what is a Wikipedia?
[22:31] <Shirik> I don't have such access
[22:31] <matthewrbowker> :( darn
[22:31] <Shirik> I have TS access but not to that project as far as I'm aware
[22:31] <resmi> the website that to description everything in the world
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[22:32] <matthewrbowker> Shirik: That's OK.  Thanks for your time
[22:35] <Steven_Zhang> Peter-C looks like a nerd :P
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[22:36] <Peter-C> I am one
[22:36] <Peter-C> :D
[22:41] <Steven_Zhang> lol
[22:41] <Steven_Zhang> n3rd
[22:41] <Peter-C> :3
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[22:45] <Peter-C> Ktr101 - no Wikibus from DC
[22:45] <Peter-C> Unless you can pull $1815
[22:45] <Peter-C> *Boston
[22:45] <Ktr101> LOL
[22:46] <matthewrbowker> Peter-C: Holy cow, was that the lowest price?
[22:46] <Ktr101> that's why i preferred trains
[22:46] <Peter-C> It is 775 for NYC to Phily to DC
[22:46] <Peter-C> +1815 for Boston aparently
[22:47] <Peter-C> I am looking for other quotes
[22:48] <Peter-C> Ktr101 - you can split the cost with GorillaWarfare! :P
[22:48] <Peter-C> (oh, this is for the WHOLE bus FYI)
[22:48] <Ktr101> it's like at most 80 by train
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[22:48] <Ktr101> ooh
[22:48] <Ktr101> bastard
[22:48] <Ktr101> way to lie
[22:48] <Ktr101> lol
[22:48] <Peter-C> Hey! It will still cost us 1815 to get you 2 asses down here!
[22:48] <Peter-C> *your
[22:49] <Steven_Zhang> 1815??
[22:49] <SigmaWP> Steven_Zhang: poke
[22:49] <Peter-C> mhgm
[22:49] <Peter-C> *mhm
[22:49] <Steven_Zhang> yes?
[22:49] <SigmaWP> Review my DYK?
[22:49] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_PHP
[22:49] <SigmaWP> Wait...
[22:49] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%CE%A3/Testing_facility/Coal_formation
[22:49] <Peter-C> Ktr101 - ONE WAY transportation for one, 50 passenger motor coach departing Boston, MA on 07/09/12 to New York, NY, to Philadelphia, PA and to Washington, DC = $2590.00
[22:50] <Peter-C> (direct quote)
[22:50] <Ktr101> ooh
[22:50] <Ktr101> well, tough
[22:50] <Ktr101> i'll do a train
[22:50] <Peter-C> New York, NY to Philadelphia, PA to Washington DC = $775.00.
[22:50] <Peter-C> :(
[22:50] <Peter-C> Train to NYC, then take the bus? :D
[22:51] <Peter-C> (the bus will most likely be free or dirt cheap)
[22:52] <Pilif12p> A RESTAURANT NAMED (realizes that caps lock is on) a salad the "Santorum"
[22:53] <Peter-C> O_o
[22:53] <Ktr101> pete, i'm going to intern in dc next semester
[22:53] <Ktr101> i'll probably master the whole damn metro system by then
[22:53] <Peter-C> haha
�06[22:53] * Peter-C uses Ktr101 as a guide
[22:53] <Ktr101> there's an iphone app as well
[22:54] <Peter-C> Ew
[22:54] <Peter-C> No iCrap
[22:54] <Peter-C> :(
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[22:57] <Peter-C> Netalarm - where do you live
[22:58] <Peter-C> Gfoley4 - can we make a rest stop at your house?
[22:58] <Netalarm> under your bed
[22:58] <Netalarm> chicago
[22:58] <Peter-C> blah
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