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== Peter Z's Notes == | == Peter Z's Notes == | ||
| + | *'''''Firstly''''' it appears to me that the region has problems with interpreting multicultural and ''multiethnic'' history (& societies). | ||
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''Signor Arneri" stated: | ''Signor Arneri" stated: | ||
:"These three pears you see on the wall," said he, "are the arms of my family. Perussich was the name, when, in the earlier part of the fifteenth century, my ancestors built this palace; so that, you see, I am Dalmatian. All the family, fathers, sons, and brothers, used to serve in the fleets of the Republic (Republic of Venice); but the hero of our race was '''Arneri Perussich''' (Arnerius Peruzzi), whose statue you see there, who fought, bled, and died at the ''Siege of Candia'', whose memory was honoured by the Republic, and whose surviving family was liberally pensioned; so his name of our race. We became Arneri, and ceased to be Perussich"<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LUFlza-oCV0C&pg=PA164&dq=These+three+pears+you+see+on+the+wall,%22+said+he,+%22are+the+arms+of+my+family.+Perussich+was+the+name,&hl=en&ei=Q2NCTNiSCJLqvQO8y9DIDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=These%20three%20pears%20you%20see%20on%20the%20wall%2C%22%20said%20he%2C%20%22are%20the%20arms%20of%20my%20family.%20Perussich%20was%20the%20name%2C&f=false Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic:] By Andrew Archibald Paton. Chapter 4. The Dalmatian Archipelago.p164 | :"These three pears you see on the wall," said he, "are the arms of my family. Perussich was the name, when, in the earlier part of the fifteenth century, my ancestors built this palace; so that, you see, I am Dalmatian. All the family, fathers, sons, and brothers, used to serve in the fleets of the Republic (Republic of Venice); but the hero of our race was '''Arneri Perussich''' (Arnerius Peruzzi), whose statue you see there, who fought, bled, and died at the ''Siege of Candia'', whose memory was honoured by the Republic, and whose surviving family was liberally pensioned; so his name of our race. We became Arneri, and ceased to be Perussich"<ref>[http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LUFlza-oCV0C&pg=PA164&dq=These+three+pears+you+see+on+the+wall,%22+said+he,+%22are+the+arms+of+my+family.+Perussich+was+the+name,&hl=en&ei=Q2NCTNiSCJLqvQO8y9DIDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=These%20three%20pears%20you%20see%20on%20the%20wall%2C%22%20said%20he%2C%20%22are%20the%20arms%20of%20my%20family.%20Perussich%20was%20the%20name%2C&f=false Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic:] By Andrew Archibald Paton. Chapter 4. The Dalmatian Archipelago.p164 | ||
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''Editors notes'': Naski or Naški ''(Blato was called Blatta)'' | ''Editors notes'': Naski or Naški ''(Blato was called Blatta)'' | ||
| − | * | + | * indigenous population of Korcula were Illyrians.<ref>The Cambridge Ancient History Vol. 11 : The High Empire, AD 70-192 by Peter Rathbone</ref> It is believed that the Illyrians arrived in the Balkans approximately 1000 BC.<ref>The Illyrians (The Peoples of Europe) by John Wilkes,ISBN 0631198075-1996</ref> |
* Greek colony was founded on Korcula.<ref>An Inventory of Archaic and Classical Poleis: An Investigation Conducted by The Copenhagen Polis Centre for the Danish National Research Foundation by Mogens Herman Hansen,2005,Index</ref> Greek colonists from Corcyra (Corfu) formed a small colony on the island in the 6th century B.C. The Greeks named it "Black Corfu" after their homeland and the dense pine-woods on the island. | * Greek colony was founded on Korcula.<ref>An Inventory of Archaic and Classical Poleis: An Investigation Conducted by The Copenhagen Polis Centre for the Danish National Research Foundation by Mogens Herman Hansen,2005,Index</ref> Greek colonists from Corcyra (Corfu) formed a small colony on the island in the 6th century B.C. The Greeks named it "Black Corfu" after their homeland and the dense pine-woods on the island. | ||
* The island became part of the Roman province of '''Illyricum'''. <ref>Encyclopedia Britannica. | * The island became part of the Roman province of '''Illyricum'''. <ref>Encyclopedia Britannica. | ||
| − | * The Roman province of Illyricum stretched from the Drilon River (the Drin, in modern Albania) in the south to Istria (modem [[Slovenia]] and Croatia)</ref> | + | * The Roman province of Illyricum stretched from the Drilon River (the Drin, in modern Albania) in the south to Istria (modem [[Slovenia]] and Croatia)</ref> After the Illyrian Wars. Roman migration followed and Roman citizens arrived on the island. <ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=QtppAAAAMAAJ&q=Roman+Junianum+korcula&dq=Roman+Junianum+korcula&lr= Croatian Adriatic:] History, Culture, Art & Natural beauties</ref> In 10 AD Illyricum was split into two provinces, Pannonia and Dalmatia.<ref>John Everett-Healu. "Dalmatia." Concise Dictionary of World Place-Names. Oxford University Press. 2005. Encyclopedia.com</ref> Korcula became part of the ancient Roman province of Dalmatia. |
* In the 6th century it came under Byzantine Empire rule. | * In the 6th century it came under Byzantine Empire rule. | ||
| − | *The Great Migrations of the 6th and 7th centuries, brought the Slavic peoples<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=l6JnAAAAMAAJ&dq=croatian+history&q=slavs#search_anchor A History of the Croatian] by Francis Ralph Preveden (1955)</ref> into the | + | *The Great Migrations of the 6th and 7th centuries, brought the Slavic peoples<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=l6JnAAAAMAAJ&dq=croatian+history&q=slavs#search_anchor A History of the Croatian] by Francis Ralph Preveden (1955)</ref> into the Dalmatia region. Croatians (Slavs) arrived on the island in the 8th & 9th century. |
| + | * Second Slavic Migration in 17th & 18th century. | ||
| + | Additional: | ||
| + | *Venetian & Ragusan families. | ||
| + | *Korcula originally a Latin town. Latter became Latin/Venetian/Slavic (Croatian) | ||
| + | *Cara originally Slavic (Croatian) village. | ||
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| + | Note: Croatian (Slavs) from Red Croatia started to be referred and referred to themselves as Dalmatians or Dalmatian Slavs. | ||
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'''Latin'''/Illyrian/Slavic communities history of the historic ''Republic of Ragusa'' '''&''' ''Republic of Venice'' became a political football for the former Communist Yugoslavia. | '''Latin'''/Illyrian/Slavic communities history of the historic ''Republic of Ragusa'' '''&''' ''Republic of Venice'' became a political football for the former Communist Yugoslavia. | ||
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Austro-Hungarian census '''1816''' registered: 66 000 Italian speaking people among the 301 000 inhabitants of Dalmatia. | Austro-Hungarian census '''1816''' registered: 66 000 Italian speaking people among the 301 000 inhabitants of Dalmatia. | ||
(ref from: Montani, Carlo. Venezia Giulia, Dalmazia - Sommario Storico - An Historical Outline) | (ref from: Montani, Carlo. Venezia Giulia, Dalmazia - Sommario Storico - An Historical Outline) | ||
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===Republic of Ragusa=== | ===Republic of Ragusa=== | ||
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''Editor's notes'': It's quite possible that the Republic was for centuries a multicultural and ''multiethnic'' society! It's ruling class were of mostly of Latin decent, but not all! | ''Editor's notes'': It's quite possible that the Republic was for centuries a multicultural and ''multiethnic'' society! It's ruling class were of mostly of Latin decent, but not all! | ||
[[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 01:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC) | [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 01:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== When ethnicity did not matter in the Balkans: a study of identity in pre ... By John Van Antwerp Fine == | == When ethnicity did not matter in the Balkans: a study of identity in pre ... By John Van Antwerp Fine == | ||
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=p3oGybOY1w4C&pg=PA62&dq=When+ethnicity+did+not+matter+in+the+Balkans++John+Van+Antwerp+Fine++Slavonic+Neretljani&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false Neretljani] | *[http://books.google.com/books?id=p3oGybOY1w4C&pg=PA62&dq=When+ethnicity+did+not+matter+in+the+Balkans++John+Van+Antwerp+Fine++Slavonic+Neretljani&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false Neretljani] | ||
Revision as of 01:51, 12 August 2010
Peter Z's Notes
- Firstly it appears to me that the region has problems with interpreting multicultural and multiethnic history (& societies).
Island of Korčula
Signor Arneri" stated:
- "These three pears you see on the wall," said he, "are the arms of my family. Perussich was the name, when, in the earlier part of the fifteenth century, my ancestors built this palace; so that, you see, I am Dalmatian. All the family, fathers, sons, and brothers, used to serve in the fleets of the Republic (Republic of Venice); but the hero of our race was Arneri Perussich (Arnerius Peruzzi), whose statue you see there, who fought, bled, and died at the Siege of Candia, whose memory was honoured by the Republic, and whose surviving family was liberally pensioned; so his name of our race. We became Arneri, and ceased to be Perussich"[1]
According to Marinko Gjivoje, Perussich is Piruzović''.[2]
Naski: Naski (ours) or Illirskee ia a Slavonic Dialect. Taken from Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by John Gardner Wilkinson. Published in 1848 (p33). [3] Editors notes: Naski or Naški (Blato was called Blatta)
- indigenous population of Korcula were Illyrians.[4] It is believed that the Illyrians arrived in the Balkans approximately 1000 BC.[5]
- Greek colony was founded on Korcula.[6] Greek colonists from Corcyra (Corfu) formed a small colony on the island in the 6th century B.C. The Greeks named it "Black Corfu" after their homeland and the dense pine-woods on the island.
- The island became part of the Roman province of Illyricum. [7] After the Illyrian Wars. Roman migration followed and Roman citizens arrived on the island. [8] In 10 AD Illyricum was split into two provinces, Pannonia and Dalmatia.[9] Korcula became part of the ancient Roman province of Dalmatia.
- In the 6th century it came under Byzantine Empire rule.
- The Great Migrations of the 6th and 7th centuries, brought the Slavic peoples[10] into the Dalmatia region. Croatians (Slavs) arrived on the island in the 8th & 9th century.
- Second Slavic Migration in 17th & 18th century.
Additional:
- Venetian & Ragusan families.
- Korcula originally a Latin town. Latter became Latin/Venetian/Slavic (Croatian)
- Cara originally Slavic (Croatian) village.
Note: Croatian (Slavs) from Red Croatia started to be referred and referred to themselves as Dalmatians or Dalmatian Slavs.
Latin/Illyrian/Slavic communities history of the historic Republic of Ragusa & Republic of Venice became a political football for the former Communist Yugoslavia.
- Republic of Ragusa was set up by Latin/Illyrian families.
- Republic of Venice was set up by Latin families.
(Venice acquired Slavic & other Latin populations through conquering)
Slavic communities later became part of these City States, which later became Republics.
Famous mixed marriages within these communities :
- Roger Joseph Boskovich (Republic of Ragusa)
- Fausto Veranzio (Republic of Venice)
Parents were Italian & Croatian.
Austro-Hungarian census 1816 registered: 66 000 Italian speaking people among the 301 000 inhabitants of Dalmatia. (ref from: Montani, Carlo. Venezia Giulia, Dalmazia - Sommario Storico - An Historical Outline)
Republic of Ragusa
Republic of Ragusa was set up by Latin/Illyrian families. The Republic's city, Ragusa (today called Dubrovnik) was established in the 7th century, post Slavic and Avar invasions. The refugees from Epidaurum (a Roman city) built the settlement in Dalmatia, today in southernmost modern Croatia. Over the centuries the City State-Ragusa started to have relations with the Slavic hinterland, then called Red Croatia[11][12][13][14] (this term for the region ceased to be used from the 11th century onwards). Ragusa itself became an independent state in 1358.
The Croatians (Slavs), some time in the middle ages started to be part of the Republic's population. There is a theory that the Croatisation of the region started to happen in the 19-century, with the Republic becoming part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (then called the Habsburg Monarchy). The second theory is that it was much earlier. The 1667 Dubrovnik earthquake,[15] which destroyed the greater part of Dubrovnik has been cited as a turning point for the Republic's ethnic population make up.
In John Van Antwerp Fine's book "When Ethnicity did not Matter in the Balkans" the population of the Republic in the 15-century was describe as mainly Slavic. This is very plausible, (that by the 15 century) the surrounding area of the city of Dubrovnik, the Slavs would have been in the majority.[16]
Editor's notes: It's quite possible that the Republic was for centuries a multicultural and multiethnic society! It's ruling class were of mostly of Latin decent, but not all! Peter Z. 01:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
When ethnicity did not matter in the Balkans: a study of identity in pre ... By John Van Antwerp Fine
References
- ^ Researches on the Danube and the Adriatic: By Andrew Archibald Paton. Chapter 4. The Dalmatian Archipelago.p164
- Andrew Archibald Paton (1811-1874) was a British diplomat and writer from the 19 century.
- ^ Otok Korčula (2nd edition) by Marinko Gjivoje, Zagreb 1969.
- The book outlines A-Z about the island of Korcula, from traditions, history, culture to wildlife, politics & geography. Page 46-47: Piruzović .
- ^ Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by Sir John Gardner Wilkinson
- Sir John Gardner Wilkinson (October 5, 1797 – October 29, 1875) was an English traveller, writer and pioneer Egyptologist of the 19th century. He is often referred to as "the Father of British Egyptology".
- ^ The Cambridge Ancient History Vol. 11 : The High Empire, AD 70-192 by Peter Rathbone
- ^ The Illyrians (The Peoples of Europe) by John Wilkes,ISBN 0631198075-1996
- ^ An Inventory of Archaic and Classical Poleis: An Investigation Conducted by The Copenhagen Polis Centre for the Danish National Research Foundation by Mogens Herman Hansen,2005,Index
- ^ Encyclopedia Britannica.
- The Roman province of Illyricum stretched from the Drilon River (the Drin, in modern Albania) in the south to Istria (modem Slovenia and Croatia)
- ^ Croatian Adriatic: History, Culture, Art & Natural beauties
- ^ John Everett-Healu. "Dalmatia." Concise Dictionary of World Place-Names. Oxford University Press. 2005. Encyclopedia.com
- ^ A History of the Croatian by Francis Ralph Preveden (1955)
- ^ Byzantium's Balkan Frontier: A Political Study of the Northern Balkans, 900-1204 by Paul Stephenson
- ^ Presbyter Diocleas: De Regno Sclavorum; Ioannes Lucius: De Regno Dalmatie et Croatiae (Amsterdam 1666) 287-302; Schwandtner Scriptores Rerum Hungaricarum III (Vienna) 174; Sl. Mijušković: Letopis Popa Dukljanina-1967)
- ^ Flavius Blondus: Historiarum ab Inclinatione Romani Imperii, dec II, lib II (Venetiae 1483, f. 115 r; ed Basilea 1559) 177.
- ^ Andrea Dandolo (1300-1354), the Venetian author of Chronicle of Dalmatia, who writes of Croatian lands (Dalmatian Kingdom), reiterated the boundaries of Red Croatia
- ^ Earthquake Monitoring and Seismic Hazard Mitigation in Balkan Countries by Eystein Sverre Husebye
- ^ When Ethnicity Did Not Matter in the Balkans: by John Van Antwerp Fine
