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| − | ==Aricle not doing well in google==
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| − | this article [[Sarey Savy]] is number 15 on google i need to make it number one! Help! please?! ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 21:06, 11 February 2010 (PST))
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| − | : You just created it. It may take some time to get to #1. Also, it will help if you go to other websites (Facebook, MySpace, Wikia, etc.) and try to get an external link placed FROM there TO this article here. I will look at the [[Sarey Savy]] page and see if I can help matters with the semantic tagging in the article. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:00, 12 February 2010 (PST)
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| − | Thanks man this is WAY better than Wikipedia =] If i could give away awards for best wikis i would give you millions and you'd win all the time =] ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 08:42, 12 February 2010 (PST))
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| − | Oh it's decreasing it's rank on google. ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 09:08, 12 February 2010 (PST))
| + | Do you think there's any chance you'll be updating the math parser, whatever it is, any time soon? I'd like to keep MyWikiBiz as my main work wiki and I've been trying to fix all the problems with MathJax or whatever it is, but it just doesn't look doable anymore. Here's how one of my math sections looks on three different wikis: |
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| − | Why is it decreasing? ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 09:47, 12 February 2010 (PST))
| + | * MyWikiBiz |
| | + | : http://mywikibiz.com/Directory:Jon_Awbrey/Differential_Logic_and_Dynamic_Systems_2.0#Terminological_Interlude |
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| − | :It probably senses your panic. Seriously, calm down -- these things take time. And there's no saying that this page is going to go to #1 -- there's already a page on MySpace and on Facebook. They tend to perform stronger than MyWikiBiz. Have you set up any inbound, "dofollow" links on other sites? -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 12:52, 12 February 2010 (PST) | + | * InterSciWiki |
| | + | : http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Differential_Logic_and_Dynamic_Systems_2.0#Terminological_Interlude |
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| − | Yes it is linked on myspace facebook etc. ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 14:03, 12 February 2010 (PST))
| + | * Wikiversity |
| | + | : https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:JonAwbrey/Sandbox |
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| − | What can i do to improve the google ranking? ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 21:40, 12 February 2010 (PST))
| + | Aside from the overall readability issues, there's problems with underlining and failure to distinguish serif and sans serif characters that I use for a critical math distinction. |
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| − | :Mr. Chen, may I ask how old are you? Please [http://www.slideshare.net/bencrothers/10-tips-to-boost-your-google-ranking read this] and follow what you learn there. These are basic tips for boosting the Google ranking of a site or page you wish to optimize. Good luck! -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:51, 13 February 2010 (PST)
| + | Regards, [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] ([[User talk:Jon Awbrey|talk]]) 22:00, 4 October 2017 (UTC) |
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| − | Thanks! It's number 3 on google ranking! Can't you take the Directory talk out? ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 10:37, 13 February 2010 (PST))
| + | :Frankly, there is zero chance that I would personally update the math parser, because I'm not technically inclined. The last time we had a major overhaul to the platform was in 2014. That took an outside contractor to execute, and the cost was around $900. I am just guessing that a math parser update would potentially set off a domino effect of requiring an update to the Mediawiki root platform, and thus I could be "in" for another $1,000-ish cost. Your most popular page, '''Logical graph''', got 62 hits from around the globe in the past month. For 2 hits a day, I really can't justify the potential budget outlay. Is there any way you would commit to splitting the cost and working with me to find an appropriate contractor? - [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] ([[User talk:MyWikiBiz|talk]]) 16:50, 5 October 2017 (UTC) |
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| − | Okay it fell down it's not even on google!!! I just deleted my history and everything then the next thing you know Sarey Savy-Mywikibiz is GONE! ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 16:01, 14 February 2010 (PST))
| + | == Wikipediocracy == |
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| − | The directory doesn't show up but, yet when i take the directory out it does at number 3. ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 09:39, 15 February 2010 (PST))
| + | Hey dude what's up? Did you quit Wikipediocracy? [[User:Emperor|Emperor]] ([[User talk:Emperor|talk]]) 20:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC) |
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| − | == Problems With SVG Images ==
| + | :Hey bro what's hangin? No, I still read it regularly and talk with numerous members at great length! [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] ([[User talk:MyWikiBiz|talk]]) 14:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC) |
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| − | Hi, Greg, there's some kind of problem with SVG images. Maybe we're a couple of MediaWiki updates behind?
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| − | * Here's my test page: http://mywikibiz.com/User:Jon_Awbrey/SVG
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| − | * Here's what it should look like: http://oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey/SVG
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| − | [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 10:50, 16 February 2010 (PST)
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| − | :We will look into it and [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration#SVG seek a repair]. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 13:42, 16 February 2010 (PST)
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| − | ==Can you please explain to me what your site is for?==
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| − | I don't want to break any rules here. I really don't want to be banned from here. They banned me at wikipedia review and it just hurt my feelings even more. I would like to help out here, but I don't want any more bans because it makes me feel bad. I guess I have a very big problem with following or understanding site rules, so if you could please help me out with what you expect here and what this is for - before I do anything wrong and get banned I would appreciate it.[[User:Wiki Greek Basketball|Wiki Greek Basketball]] 12:45, 19 February 2010 (PST)
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| − | :[http://www.mywikibiz.com/Help:Introduction This page] should answer most of your questions. I'm happy that you're here. Not looking to ban you. In fact, three of the four top contributors to MyWikiBiz.com are blocked on Wikipedia. You basically have a lot of options here, but the first thing you need to square away is whether you are going to try to make a little bit of money here (more effort and slightly more rules to obey), or whether money is not of interest to you (easier, and fewer rules to stay on top of). -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 17:10, 19 February 2010 (PST)
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| − | == Wikia ==
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| − | Do you suppose Wikia would be profitable by now, or ever if Wikipedia did not tag Wikia links with the "nofollow" tag for however long? Do you know for how long they were not tagged with "nofollow"?
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| − | I saw that you posted this link, I think on WR:
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| − | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=5000&offset=20000&target=http://*.wikia.com
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| − | So there are like 22,000 Wikia links? Wow. [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]]
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| − | :Considering that Wikia is only barely profitable at this time (and with $14 million sunk into it, and likely very little of that recuperated), I would honestly suggest that Wikia would not be profitable by now if they hadn't had the early and ongoing boost(s) from Wikipedia-based link relevance and traffic. If you add to this how often Jimmy Wales has traveled on purportedly a Wikimedia Foundation "mission", but manages to talk about Wikia even briefly to large audiences, then I am absolutely certain Wikia would be well underwater without that self-promotional boost. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 09:18, 18 March 2010 (PDT)
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| − | :: But it is probably legal to do things like that I suppose? I am not a lawyer. I have no idea. [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]]
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| − | ::: Oh, I'm sure it's legal... up until the point the IRS decides to conduct an audit of either your personal or your corporation's taxes. But, regardless; the real point is when you consider how Wales speaks so glowingly of his free (and freewill) contributions to the Wikimedia Foundation mission (with no mention of how he's appropriated that mission to almost entirely drive his personal fortunes), his character is revealed to be that of a hypocrite when he speaks with revulsion about those who would "exploit" Wikipedia for profit. You're smart enough to see through that phony baloney, right? -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 14:15, 18 March 2010 (PDT)
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| − | :::: Self deception maybe? Or maybe just the way capitalism has to work? [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]]
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| − | == Wikademia and Wikieducator ==
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| − | I'm sure you'd be welcome to edit on both of those. [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]]
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| − | :Have you seen the Alexa ratings of WikiEducator? They are a bit lower than MyWikiBiz. I'd reach more people working here. As for Wikademia, let me know when it reaches the top million on Alexa. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 21:50, 21 March 2010 (PDT)
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| − | == Hi MyWikiBiz ==
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| − | I would like to edit the article 'Greg James Sculpture Studio Gallery' but it appears to be locked. The article was created by Peter Z. who doesn't seem to have any problems in editing it. My menu bar displays on the article 'View Source'. Can you please help? [[User:Greg James Sculpture|Greg James Sculpture]] 21:11, 31 March 2010 (PDT)
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| − | :It is open now to your being able to edit it. However, be advised, once you make an edit, you will become the "owner" of the article (because it's in Directory space), and others (including Peter) will not have access to edit. That's how our Directory space is set up at MyWikiBiz -- it's intended to be one-editor-only. If the two of you are both equally interested in editing it, I would suggest creating a joint account between you and share the password. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 21:30, 31 March 2010 (PDT)
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| − | :: Thank you [[User:Greg James Sculpture|Greg James Sculpture]] 21:47, 31 March 2010 (PDT)
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| − | == Title Help ==
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| − | Hi MyWikiBiz! Could you please help me. I've created a new article & left a dot at the end of the title: [[Directory:Robert Dawkins-The Silver Gallery.]] Is their a way of removing the dot, because I can't figure out how to do it? Regards:) [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 19:34, 7 April 2010 (PDT)
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| − | : I have moved it to [[Directory:Robert_Dawkins-The_Silver_Gallery|a new location]], sans period. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 04:55, 8 April 2010 (PDT)
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| − | :: Thanks. [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 05:38, 8 April 2010 (PDT)
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| − | There is a note on one of my pages which says that ASK is no longer supported but to use 'SMW'. Is there any documentation on this pls? (Couldn't find any). [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 19:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | [edit] Does [http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Inline_queries this] have anything to do with it? If I can figure this out I will add some help files. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 19:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Yes, that is exactly the page I was going to point you to, Ockham. This was one of the most frustrating aspects of our transfer to a new server host and a complete upgrade/update to both the most current Mediawiki core software, but also the most current Semantic Mediawiki extension that used to run all of our Attributes and Relations. Now, both Attributes and Relations are lumped into a new field called "Properties". And instead of using a := for Attributes, all Properties now need a :: instruction. I'm going to be hiring a coder to try to make some of these universal, global changes to try to make things a bit more polished around here. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 02:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Hi thanks. I [http://www.mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=List_of_medieval_philosophers&oldid=116947 tested] the medieval philosophers query with the SMW syntax but still doesn't work. I think it needs a professional to set us on the right road and then we can take it from there. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 07:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | [edit] ah my mistake. It does work (see [http://www.mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=List_of_medieval_philosophers this version] of the page). [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 07:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | {edit] The key is to remember that it doesn't support the '=<' sign. '<' in SMW means 'less or equal to'. Otherwise you get the bug. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 07:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ===How about this===
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| − | I think SMW is going to be more powerful than ASK. I have created a new version of [[List_of_Scholastic_Texts]], which as you can see now supports links to the authors, which the old version never did.
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| − | I am going to experiment with catalogues of medieval manuscripts. I have a digitised version of M.R.James catologue of manuscripts held in Gonville and Caius' library. This has details of condition, production date or century, lists of Authors and so on. There are currently projects to take catalogues like these and use professional software developers in the old-fahshioned and expensive way, to build large and difficult-to-maintain databases that only professional developers (rather than users) can understand. Using environments like this, you hardly need developers. A team of users and experts working together can quickly build a database that is far easier to use and far more transparent than any expensive database developed in the traditional IT-led way.
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| − | The problem is to get the users (i.e. medievalists or whoever) to understand how powerful this can be, and how easy to use. I will make some experiments with the James catalogue and if this works I will publish something in 'Digital Medievalist'. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 08:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I agree that while this was a painful upgrade, the opportunities for even better uses of the Semantic architecture are worth it. I am very, very pleased (you don't know how much) that a "regular user" figured this out and will be setting an example for others. I'm going to be hiring the coder later today or tomorrow, and I hope that he'll do quite a lot to help "clean up" the old messes left behind by the upgrade. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 16:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Thanks, it's no problem. I also succeeded in setting up [[List_of_medieval_manuscripts]] as mentioned above. This points to pages like [[Directory:Logic_Museum/Caius_344/540]] which are a much better way of structuring information than in the old [[Directory:Logic_Museum/Manuscripts]], which is the old Wikipedia-style of hard-coding a list of things that cannot be sorted or filtered or categorised. If I have time I will write a little 1-2-3 tutorial that will take someone used to the old ways and show them the new way. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 17:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Access to The_Wikipedia_Point_of_View ==
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| − | Hi Greg I have lost edit rights to [[Directory:The_Wikipedia_Point_of_View|The_Wikipedia_Point_of_View]]. I can edit subdirectories of it, and other directories I own, but not this. Oddly, Peter Z seems able to edit it. How strange. I was going to start a subdirectory on terrible economics articles. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 17:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Try again. We're working on this issue. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 17:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: No. Still 'View source' only.[[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 18:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Problems with my articles==
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| − | Hi MyWikiBiz! There are problems with my articles. What do you think is going on? [http://www.mywikibiz.com/Titoism_and_Totalitarianism link] [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 00:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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| − | This one too. [http://www.mywikibiz.com/Criticism_of_Jimmy_Wales link] [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 01:34, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Hello Greg==
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| − | How are you doing? Would it be ok if i posted some pages here that i made elsewhere? [[User:Raf|Raf]] 19:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I also noticed your paid wiki-gnome thread, but how do you send money to people online, and is it valid for people who live outside the USA? [[User:Raf|Raf]] 19:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I think it's okay to post pages that you made elsewhere, as long as you have rights to do so, and that the pages don't violate our own [[Help:General_disclaimer|terms of service]]. Payment for wiki-gnoming can be via PayPal.com, or via a mailed commercial check drawn in US dollars on a US bank. If neither of those options work, then I'm not sure how to transact. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 19:25, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::So in theory, i just have to set up a pre-paid card with PayPal and then it's all good for transferring money, from any country to any country? [[User:Raf|Raf]] 20:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::I'm sure certain limitations and restrictions apply, so see PayPal.com for details. However, I know that I have transacted payments internationally on PayPal, multiple times. As for this particular wiki-gnoming project, though... I believe I have another taker working on it now. For a $15 ''Om nom nom nom'' payment to the Wikimedia Foundation. Ugh. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 14:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::''Om nom nom nom''? ... Well for my part give 1 dollar to the WMF with a comment like "Wikipedia keeps being [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwear_fetishism child] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urolagnia friendly] with appropriate pictures for an encyclopedia" or something like that. The other 14 dollars could go to [http://scoobysworkshop.com/support.htm this], he puts a lot of time for his non-profit hobby to give advice on how to fight obesity and sedentary lifestiles. Also, if you donate 200 $ or more to him, he will give you a t-shirt. [[User:Raf|Raf]] 19:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Regarding the possible pages i can import here, they're mostly not business related and are quite obscure topics, to which i have no relation at all. Since there are pages like [[Directory:Quasi Brands]], would they be fine here? [[User:Raf|Raf]] 21:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Raf, did you read the [[Help:General_disclaimer|terms of service]]? Here, we seek to fashion this site as a safe, pleasant environment for gentle people of ages 13 and older. The management reserves the right to delete the following sorts of content at any time: pornography, adult or mature content, pedophilia or the advocacy of pedophilia, illegal gambling or wagering, gratuitous violence, hate speech, fraudulent information, and business scams. Editors who self-identify as proponents or behave in a way that strongly suggests they are proponents of any of these topics will be blocked indefinitely. These types of content are also restricted by Google AdSense, and because AdSense currently displays on many editors' content pages on MyWikiBiz, we cannot jeopardize AdSense account(s) with such prohibited content. If your obscure content doesn't seem to ruffle these terms, you should be fine. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 03:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == The Letter ==
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| − | Title: '''The Letter'''<BR>
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| − | Artist: '''Greg Kohs'''<BR>
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| − | Composer: '''Wayne Carson Thompson and Barsoom Tork Associates'''<BR>
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| − | YouTube: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIxvIUz4aY '''The Letter'''] — The Box Tops (1967)<BR>
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| − | Gimme a tax break for a donation,<BR>
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| − | My column's more fun than Sony PlayStation.<BR>
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| − | Boring days are gone, I'm a-goin' strong,<BR>
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| − | 'Cause Jimbo just wrote me a letter.<BR>
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| − | Getting back to New York again<BR>
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| − | Boring days are gone, my column's going strong,<BR>
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| − | 'Cause Jimbo just wrote me a letter.<BR>
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| − | Said he couldn't fly without some more dough.<BR>
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| − | Listen friends, can't you see he's got to get back<BR>
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| − | To New York once more --anyway...<BR>
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| − | My column's more fun than Sony PlayStation.<BR>
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| − | Boring days are gone, I'm a-goin' strong,<BR>
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| − | 'Cause Jimbo just wrote me a letter.<BR>
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| − | Said he couldn't fly without some more dough.<BR>
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| − | Listen critics, can't you see we got to get back<BR>
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| − | To Wikimania once more --anyway...<BR>
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| − | Gimme a tax break for a donation,<BR>
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| − | My column's more fun than Sony PlayStation.<BR>
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| − | Boring days are gone, my column's going strong,<BR>
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| − | 'Cause Jimbo just wrote me a letter.<BR>
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| − | Because Jimbo just wrote me a letter.<BR>
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| − | ''CopyClef 2010 Wayne Carson Thompson and Barsoom Tork Associates.''<BR>
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| − | ''Resurrection Hackware. All songs abused.''</Small><BR>
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| − | == e-mail ==
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| − | I sent you an e-mail. Did you receive it? [[User:Jonas Rand|Jonas Rand]] 02:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :I did. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 19:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Delete "Sarey Savy" ==
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| − | Hi may i ask you to delete "Sarey Savy". The article has been created on a wikipedia. Thanks! ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 04:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC))
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| − | :Are you [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sarey_Savy sure about that]? Let me know. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 20:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Oops i mean on Wikinfo he is featured. [http://www.wikinfo.org/ Sarey featured]
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| − | :Michael, I'll be happy to delete any page that you created, but I'm really confused why you'd want to delete something here, just because it now also appears on another web site (and one that gets less than one-third of our traffic reach). -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 05:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Ok well at least til' the article stays may we just take the semantic rankings tag for now than add it again later? ([[User:Michael Chen|Michael Chen]] 08:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC))
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| − | Thanks for the recent [http://www.mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=Titoism_and_Totalitarianism&diff=0&oldid=133346 edited] [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 02:32, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Do You Know Of Other Sites Like MyWikiBiz? ==
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| − | Do You Know Of Other Sites Like MyWikiBiz? That is my question. Thank you. [[User:Geoff White|Geoff White]] 04:59, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Yes, the sites I typically point to as possible similar venues are Wikipedia, AboutUs, Wikinfo, MerchantCircle, HotFrog, and NetKnowledge. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 14:45, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Problematic Edits ==
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| − | Hi, Greg, been away for a while, but noticed a few problematic edits and editors creeping in.
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| − | # [http://mywikibiz.com/Blow_Gallery_Job_Mpeg_Tgp]
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| − | — [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 11:50, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : Frustrating how spam bots have apparently found an automated technique to register here, confirm registration, then post one new page, never to return. I'm going to look into how we can limit them, maybe with a captcha. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 15:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :: I know, it's almost enough to make one think that maybe wikis are not such a hot idea, after all … [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 22:07, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Hi, Greg, more problematic stuff at the top of recent changes. Been real busy with local politics lately, but I tend to notice these sorts of things whenever I recommend a new batch of users to the site. [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 04:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : Thanks, Jon. I've deleted a few of them, but the solution will have to be a captcha for new account registration. I have my developer working on it, but he's been busy. Might have to outsource the task soon. This is really out of hand. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 12:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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